RE: 1978 NFPA 13 question

2014-03-24 Thread Bill Brooks
This would have been based on NFPA 231, 1974 edition. Class III storage, 25 ft high. Basic density of 0.19 over 4000 but a 140% density multiplier for 25 ft storage. In those days Class III was wood, paper, natural fiber cloth or products thereof with or without pallets. Products contain a limi

RE: 1978 NFPA 13 question

2014-03-24 Thread Craig.Prahl
-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Matsuda, Richard Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 3:09 PM To: sprinklerfo...@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: 1978 NFPA 13 question Craig, >From 1987 NFPA-231, Class 3 to 20-feet required .19/4000...and about 138% >increase for 25-feet is about .26/4000. Or as Lar

RE: 1978 NFPA 13 question

2014-03-24 Thread Matsuda, Richard
2014 1:59 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: 1978 NFPA 13 question 0.26 / 4000 looks a lot like Class IV Commodities, palletized or solid pile storage to 20 ft, with ordinary-temperature sprinklers. Check out Figure 14.2.4.1 in your 2007 edition of NFPA 13. The curves haven't cha

RE: 1978 NFPA 13 question

2014-03-24 Thread RFletcher
...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of David Autry Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 11:45 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: 1978 NFPA 13 question In my 1983 Edition, .26/4000 is "above" the Extra Hazard Group 1. It may have come from 231C? David Autry Meininger Fire Protection Inc. 2

RE: 1978 NFPA 13 question

2014-03-24 Thread Larry Keeping
forum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of David Autry Sent: March-24-14 2:45 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: 1978 NFPA 13 question In my 1983 Edition, .26/4000 is "above" the Extra Hazard Group 1. It may have come from 231C? David Autry Meininger Fire

Re: 1978 NFPA 13 question

2014-03-24 Thread Parsley Consulting
Craig, I wonder if that far back that the design parameters were from 231 or 231C instead of -13? I have some old copies but not sure how far back the run. *Ken Wagoner, SET *Parsley Consulting*** *350 West 9th Avenue, Suite 206 *Escondido, CA 92025-5053 *Phone 760.745.6181* Visit our

RE: 1978 NFPA 13 question

2014-03-24 Thread Craig.Prahl
-Original Message- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Parsley Consulting Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 2:47 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: Re: 1978 NFPA 13 question Craig, I

RE: 1978 NFPA 13 question

2014-03-24 Thread David Autry
[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of craig.pr...@ch2m.com Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 1:48 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: 1978 NFPA 13 question I would think it would be from 231 since there are no racks in the warehouse. Craig L. Prahl, CET Fire

RE: 1978 NFPA 13 question

2014-03-24 Thread Craig.Prahl
, 2014 2:45 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: 1978 NFPA 13 question In my 1983 Edition, .26/4000 is "above" the Extra Hazard Group 1. It may have come from 231C? David Autry Meininger Fire Protection Inc. 2521 W L St. Suite No.4 Lincoln, Ne 68522 Voice (402

RE: 1978 NFPA 13 question

2014-03-24 Thread David Autry
In my 1983 Edition, .26/4000 is "above" the Extra Hazard Group 1. It may have come from 231C? David Autry Meininger Fire Protection Inc. 2521 W L St. Suite No.4 Lincoln, Ne 68522 Voice (402) 466-2616 Fax (402) 466-2617 da...@mfp-inc.com -Original Message- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@l