Gonzalo Peña-Castellanos,
Does this mean tab-reordering won't be apart of the 3.0 release? On Saturday, April 16, 2016 at 12:13:28 PM UTC-4, Gonzalo Peña-Castellanos wrote: > > Hi Dan thanks for your comments. > > It is very encouraging for the developer team to hear about new users > (mostly) happy with Spyder. > > I am in charge of making the tab ordering for the editor > https://github.com/spyder-ide/spyder/pull/2372, but I am not entirely > happy with the approach I took so I need to start again. However rest > assured that this is something in our radar. > > Cheers > > On Wednesday, 30 March 2016 09:21:15 UTC-5, Dan Codiga wrote: >> >> Thank you for the suggestion about WinPdb. I will try that. I don't use a >> debugger a whole lot either. My code is typically just barely complex >> enough to need a debugger, but not so simple that I can be productive >> without a good IDE (i.e. with just a text editor, or with just ipython >> notebook). >> >> I did go get and try PyCharm (community edition). My experience was not >> successful with it yet. As it is mainly built for software developers, not >> scientific programmers, I found it frustratingly complex and inflexible. I >> don't need the rigidity of keeping all files/folders as a designated >> 'project', as it requires. My code is oriented around interactive work, and >> is based on ipython (including some of its magic commands)-- neither of >> which go well when using the main 'run console' that is the default around >> which PyCharm is built. (Unless I am misunderstanding something ... see >> https://intellij-support.jetbrains.com/hc/en-us/requests/655254?flash_digest=f0b9cdbc61c6b9f58c958b0e0c6e3ed5df1a3e23.) >> >> Furthermore, their debugger may be good but it is only well-integrated with >> their 'run console', not necessarily the ipython console, as far as I could >> tell. I had some existing code (modest number of files and simple folder >> tree) that worked well within Spyder and didn't need to modify the path or >> mess with PYTHONPATH or any other environment variables, and I found that >> to get it to run inside PyCharm I had to let PyCharm change the path and >> use PYTHONPATH. Furthermore my code imported cx_Oracle (a version that >> causes no error) but when run in PyCharm that import found and used a >> different cx_Oracle, that came with PyCharm, and caused an obscure Win32 >> error. >> >> So for now I am sticking with Spyder. If I find that WinPdb meets my >> debugging needs with Spyder, then the main thing about Spyder that I still >> find limiting is that I can't reorder tabs in the editor (which of course >> PyCharm does rather well). >> >> >> On Thursday, March 10, 2016 at 2:28:25 PM UTC-5, Nikolay Karelin wrote: >>> >>> Hello Dan, >>> >>> If the debugger in Spyder is limiting for you, you can try WinPdb - it >>> is not quite supported, but rather well written. Alternatively, you can use >>> some 'real' Python IDE with powerful debugger. I prefer PyCharm (free >>> version is ok) for that. >>> >>> But when I once asked on local Python meetup "Guys, which debugger do >>> you prefer?", most of audience told - print or logging is enough except >>> really complex situations ;) >>> >>> On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 8:02:24 PM UTC+3, Dan Codiga wrote: >>>> >>>> I am a scientific programmer with many years of Matlab experience, and >>>> have been using Spyder over the past several months as I learn Python and >>>> transition to using it instead of Matlab. Overall I am happy with Spyder >>>> as >>>> an IDE. (Using it on Win7 64bit.) >>>> >>>> However, there are at least a few aspects that I consider to be >>>> important weaknesses. In particular: the debugger is quite limited and >>>> frustrating; I can't drag-drop to reorder tabs in the editor; and >>>> oftentimes the File Explorer doesn't update (if there is an easy way to >>>> trigger an update please point me to it). >>>> >>>> Will the next release of Spyder (3.0, as I understand it) address these >>>> issues? If so, in what ways? >>>> >>>> And what is the latest guesstimate for when the next release will be >>>> out? >>>> >>>> >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "spyder" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to spyderlib+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to spyderlib@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/spyderlib. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.