Hi Paul. I'm the one who volunteered to revive the sqlalchemy-access dialect and maintain it. Feel free to have a look at
https://github.com/sqlalchemy/sqlalchemy-access to get an idea of the project structure. If you need a hand getting things up and running I'd be happy to help. Cheers, Gord On Monday, November 11, 2019 at 10:21:51 PM UTC-7, Paul Graves-DesLauriers wrote: > > I’m reviewing the README.dialects and README.unittests files. It > certainly appears that this is a task that I can take on. > > > > How do we go about splitting the Firebird support into a separate plugin? > Or perhaps, how was the sqlalchemy-access project created from the > sqlalchemy master? > > > > Thanks, > > Paul > > > > *From:* sqlal...@googlegroups.com <javascript:> <sqlal...@googlegroups.com > <javascript:>> *On Behalf Of *Mike Bayer > *Sent:* Monday, November 11, 2019 12:05 PM > *To:* noreply-spamdigest via sqlalchemy <sqlal...@googlegroups.com > <javascript:>> > *Subject:* Re: [sqlalchemy] Continuing support for Firebird database > > > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 8, 2019, at 11:05 PM, Paul Graves-DesLauriers wrote: > > This is unexpected… > > > > I can do this if we can get things setup similarly to the > sqlalchemy-access dialect. > > > > Is there a test set for confirming the dialect is acceptable for > SQLAlchemy? Is there a sample test set I can use to confirm Firebird will > work as expected (Like you use for SQL Server, Oracle, PostgreSQL, etc.)? > If so, I’m willing to give it a shot. I am extremely happy with Firebird > as a database and will probably end up doing this kind of work anyway… > > > > > > SQLAlchemy contains a test suite that is explicitly for third party > dialects to aim towards. The vast majority of SQLAlchemy tests aren't > needed for third party dialects to support, so the third party suite > contains a much more carefully maintained set of "exportable" tests that > every dialect should address, either by ensuring support is present or by > marking a certain capability as skipped. > > > > The background for this system is discussed at > https://github.com/sqlalchemy/sqlalchemy/blob/master/README.dialects.rst. > <https://github.com/sqlalchemy/sqlalchemy/blob/master/README.dialects.rst> > The sqlalchemy-access work we just did allowed us to fix a few cases, so if > Firebird can target this that would be how it does its tests once on the > outside. > > > > > > > > > > > > Paul > > > > *From:* sqlal...@googlegroups.com <javascript:> <sqlal...@googlegroups.com > <javascript:>> *On Behalf Of *Mike Bayer > > *Sent:* Friday, November 08, 2019 12:36 PM > > *To:* noreply-spamdigest via sqlalchemy <sqlal...@googlegroups.com > <javascript:>> > > *Subject:* Re: [sqlalchemy] Continuing support for Firebird database > > > > Would you be interested in maintaining / owning / releasing Firebird > separately, under github.com/sqlalchemy/sqlalchemy-firebird > <http://github.com/sqlalchemy/firebird> ? Because this is not a widely > used dialect and I can't maintain CI for it under my own umbrella, it > would benefit by being maintained and released separately. We have > recently modernized sqlalchemy-access with a new maintainer in a similar > way. > > > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 8, 2019, at 1:57 PM, Paul Graves-DesLauriers wrote: > > I saw in the SQLAlchemy 1.3 Documentation page for Firebird > <https://docs.sqlalchemy.org/en/13/dialects/firebird.html> that the > 'Firebird dialect within SQLAlchemy is not currently supported. The > dialect is not tested within continuous integration and is likely to have > many issues and caveats not currently handled.' > > > > I'd like to see the Firebird database have ongoing support within > SQLAlchemy. Firebird has been my database of choice since version 1.0, am > currently using it, and plan to continue using it in the future. It is > still in active development. > > > > For Python, I use the fdb DBAPI (official driver) along with Firebird > dialect3 (current). I would suggest removing support for the old dialect1 > and kinterbasdb driver to simplify maintenance and testing. > > > > > > Can I help with getting the dialect tested within the continuous > integration and with resolving issues and caveats? I use Jenkins on a > daily basis and have been using Python for about 8 years. I'm now a > performance test engineer, but have many years of experience as a software > developer as well. I am also willing to help with documentation and > support. > > > > Are there any other issues causing the Firebird database to losing ongoing > support for it? > > > > Thanks, > > Paul > > > > > > -- > > SQLAlchemy - > > The Python SQL Toolkit and Object Relational Mapper > > > > http://www.sqlalchemy.org/ > > > > To post example code, please provide an MCVE: Minimal, Complete, and > Verifiable Example. 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