[sqlite] error in documentation of SELECT?

2009-05-19 Thread Mitchell L Model
I may be misreading the select-core diagram on http://www.sqlite.org/lang_select.html but it appears that the down-arrow that would allow a query without a FROM clause should not be there. Is it really possible to have a SELECT with no FROM? If so, could someone provide an example; if not,

Re: [sqlite] error in documentation of SELECT?

2009-05-19 Thread Nuno Lucas
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Mitchell L Model m...@acm.org wrote: I may be misreading the select-core diagram on http://www.sqlite.org/lang_select.html  but it appears that the down-arrow that would allow a query without a FROM clause should not be there. Is it really possible to have a

Re: [sqlite] error in documentation of SELECT?

2009-05-19 Thread John Machin
On 19/05/2009 9:37 PM, Nuno Lucas wrote: On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Mitchell L Model m...@acm.org wrote: I may be misreading the select-core diagram on http://www.sqlite.org/lang_select.html but it appears that the down-arrow that would allow a query without a FROM clause should not

Re: [sqlite] error in documentation of SELECT?

2009-05-19 Thread Igor Tandetnik
John Machin sjmac...@lexicon.net wrote in message news:4a129cb4.2090...@lexicon.net It's handy for checking how things work e.g. sqlite select (-1) % 7; -1 sqlite -- it's not a real modulo operator :-( What do you feel is wrong with this result? What should a real modulo operator return, in

Re: [sqlite] error in documentation of SELECT?

2009-05-19 Thread Jean-Denis Muys
On 5/19/09 1:57 PM, Igor Tandetnik itandet...@mvps.org wrote: John Machin sjmac...@lexicon.net wrote in message news:4a129cb4.2090...@lexicon.net It's handy for checking how things work e.g. sqlite select (-1) % 7; -1 sqlite -- it's not a real modulo operator :-( What do you feel is

Re: [sqlite] error in documentation of SELECT?

2009-05-19 Thread Jean-Denis Muys
My memory failed me on a detail if I want to be rigorous. In the definition of q and r, r is a natural number, but q is a relative number, not a natural. On 5/19/09 2:06 PM, Jean-Denis Muys jdm...@kleegroup.com wrote: On 5/19/09 1:57 PM, Igor Tandetnik itandet...@mvps.org wrote: John Machin

Re: [sqlite] error in documentation of SELECT?

2009-05-19 Thread Nuno Lucas
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 12:49 PM, John Machin sjmac...@lexicon.net wrote: It's handy for checking how things work e.g. sqlite select (-1) % 7; -1 sqlite -- it's not a real modulo operator :-( I also used it as: sqlite .mode col sqlite .h 1 sqlite select €, length(€), length(cast(€ as

Re: [sqlite] error in documentation of SELECT?

2009-05-19 Thread Igor Tandetnik
Jean-Denis Muys jdm...@kleegroup.com wrote in message news:c6386d6d.45a7%jdm...@kleegroup.com On 5/19/09 1:57 PM, Igor Tandetnik itandet...@mvps.org wrote: John Machin sjmac...@lexicon.net wrote in message news:4a129cb4.2090...@lexicon.net It's handy for checking how things work e.g.

Re: [sqlite] error in documentation of SELECT?

2009-05-19 Thread Emil Obermayr
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 02:06:37PM +0200, Jean-Denis Muys wrote: There exists unique natural numbers q and r such as: a = b*q+r 0 = r b q is defined as the quotient, r is defined as the remainder. So if the % operator wants to match that math definition, its results should never be

Re: [sqlite] error in documentation of SELECT?

2009-05-19 Thread John Machin
On 19/05/2009 9:57 PM, Igor Tandetnik wrote: John Machin sjmac...@lexicon.net wrote in message news:4a129cb4.2090...@lexicon.net It's handy for checking how things work e.g. sqlite select (-1) % 7; -1 sqlite -- it's not a real modulo operator :-( What do you feel is wrong with this

Re: [sqlite] error in documentation of SELECT?

2009-05-19 Thread Jean-Denis Muys
On 5/19/09 2:44 PM, Igor Tandetnik itandet...@mvps.org wrote: Well then, for the equality to hold, (-1)/7 should be -1. Would you be happy with such an outcome? Yep Wikipedia gives a definition different from yours, for what it's worth:

Re: [sqlite] error in documentation of SELECT?

2009-05-19 Thread Jean-Denis Muys
On 5/19/09 2:44 PM, Igor Tandetnik itandet...@mvps.org wrote: Wikipedia gives a definition different from yours, for what it's worth: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remainder#The_case_of_general_integers Also to support my version, the same article says a bit later: Usually, in number

Re: [sqlite] error in documentation of SELECT?

2009-05-19 Thread Doug Currie
On May 19, 2009, at 10:05 AM, Jean-Denis Muys wrote: On 5/19/09 2:44 PM, Igor Tandetnik itandet...@mvps.org wrote: Wikipedia gives a definition different from yours, for what it's worth: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remainder#The_case_of_general_integers Also to support my version, the

[sqlite] error in documentation of SELECT?

2009-05-18 Thread Mitchell L Model
I may be misreading the select-core diagram on http://www.sqlite.org/lang_select.html but it appears that the down-arrow that would allow a query without a FROM clause should not be there. Is it really possible to have a SELECT with no FROM? If so, could someone provide an example; if not,

Re: [sqlite] error in documentation of SELECT?

2009-05-18 Thread D. Richard Hipp
On May 18, 2009, at 2:18 PM, Mitchell L Model wrote: Is it really possible to have a SELECT with no FROM? If so, could someone provide an example; i SELECT sqlite_version(); D. Richard Hipp d...@hwaci.com ___ sqlite-users mailing list

Re: [sqlite] error in documentation of SELECT?

2009-05-18 Thread Pavel Ivanov
I didn't notice it earlier and now I'm a bit surprised. Can I ask a more elaborate example which will include WHERE and/or GROUP BY but not include FROM? Pavel On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 2:32 PM, D. Richard Hipp d...@hwaci.com wrote: On May 18, 2009, at 2:18 PM, Mitchell L Model wrote: Is it

Re: [sqlite] error in documentation of SELECT?

2009-05-18 Thread Noah Hart
18, 2009 11:37 AM To: General Discussion of SQLite Database Subject: Re: [sqlite] error in documentation of SELECT? I didn't notice it earlier and now I'm a bit surprised. Can I ask a more elaborate example which will include WHERE and/or GROUP BY but not include FROM? Pavel CONFIDENTIALITY

Re: [sqlite] error in documentation of SELECT?

2009-05-18 Thread Pavel Ivanov
-Original Message- From: sqlite-users-boun...@sqlite.org [mailto:sqlite-users-boun...@sqlite.org] On Behalf Of Pavel Ivanov Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 11:37 AM To: General Discussion of SQLite Database Subject: Re: [sqlite] error in documentation of SELECT? I didn't notice it earlier and now

Re: [sqlite] error in documentation of SELECT?

2009-05-18 Thread D. Richard Hipp
On May 18, 2009, at 2:53 PM, Pavel Ivanov wrote: Actually I wanted to know if it can be useful somewhere. :-) I already shown you one useful thing to do with a SELECT that omits the FROM clause: Determine the version of SQLite you are running using SELECT sqlite_version(). In