[squid-users] How to configure a "proxy home" page ?

2018-03-16 Thread Nicolas Kovacs
Hi, I have Squid + SquidGuard + SquidAnalyzer running on my LAN server as a transparent cache + filtering proxy, and it's working real nicely. When a client in my company wants to connect to the wifi, all he or she has to do is this: 1. Connect to http://nestor.microlinux.lan 2. Download the ne

Re: [squid-users] How to configure a "proxy home" page ?

2018-03-16 Thread Yuri
I guess better way to do this is create special ACL to catch exactly certificate error and then redirect by 302 using deny_info to proxy page with explanation and certificate. Sadly, however I have no full solution for this logic (we're simple install proxy certificate manually), but idea exists ;

Re: [squid-users] How to configure a "proxy home" page ?

2018-03-16 Thread Nicolas Kovacs
Le 16/03/2018 à 13:43, Yuri a écrit : > I guess better way to do this is create special ACL to catch exactly > certificate error and then redirect by 302 using deny_info to proxy > page with explanation and certificate. This sounds like the way to go. I just removed the root certificate from one

Re: [squid-users] How to configure a "proxy home" page ?

2018-03-16 Thread Yuri
I think, you should dig in this direction: #    acl aclname ssl_error errorname #      # match against SSL certificate validation error [fast] #      # #      # For valid error names see in /usr/local/squid/share/errors/templates/error-details.txt #      # template file. #      # #      # The foll

Re: [squid-users] How to configure a "proxy home" page ?

2018-03-25 Thread Eliezer Croitoru
r Croitoru Linux System Administrator Mobile: +972-5-28704261 Email: elie...@ngtech.co.il -Original Message- From: squid-users On Behalf Of Nicolas Kovacs Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 12:37 To: squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org Subject: [squid-users] How to configure a "proxy home&

Re: [squid-users] How to configure a "proxy home" page ?

2018-03-25 Thread Yuri
u > Linux System Administrator > Mobile: +972-5-28704261 > Email: elie...@ngtech.co.il > > > -Original Message- > From: squid-users On Behalf Of > Nicolas Kovacs > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 12:37 > To: squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org > Subject: [squid-users]

Re: [squid-users] How to configure a "proxy home" page ?

2018-03-25 Thread Nicolas Kovacs
Le 25/03/2018 à 13:08, Yuri a écrit : > The problem is not install proxy CA. The problem is identify client > has no proxy CA and redirect, and do it only one time. That is exactly the problem. And I have yet to find a solution for that. Current method is instruct everyone - with a printed paper

Re: [squid-users] How to configure a "proxy home" page ?

2018-03-25 Thread Yuri
25.03.2018 17:46, Nicolas Kovacs пишет: > Le 25/03/2018 à 13:08, Yuri a écrit : >> The problem is not install proxy CA. The problem is identify client >> has no proxy CA and redirect, and do it only one time. > That is exactly the problem. And I have yet to find a solution for that. > > Current m

Re: [squid-users] How to configure a "proxy home" page ?

2018-03-25 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
Le 25/03/2018 à 13:08, Yuri a écrit : The problem is not install proxy CA. The problem is identify client has no proxy CA and redirect, and do it only one time. On 25.03.18 13:46, Nicolas Kovacs wrote: That is exactly the problem. And I have yet to find a solution for that. Current method is

Re: [squid-users] How to configure a "proxy home" page ?

2018-03-25 Thread Yuri
25.03.2018 18:42, Matus UHLAR - fantomas пишет: >> Le 25/03/2018 à 13:08, Yuri a écrit : >>> The problem is not install proxy CA. The problem is identify client >>> has no proxy CA and redirect, and do it only one time. > > On 25.03.18 13:46, Nicolas Kovacs wrote: >> That is exactly the problem.

Re: [squid-users] How to configure a "proxy home" page ?

2018-03-25 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
Le 25/03/2018 à 13:08, Yuri a écrit : The problem is not install proxy CA. The problem is identify client has no proxy CA and redirect, and do it only one time. On 25.03.18 13:46, Nicolas Kovacs wrote: That is exactly the problem. And I have yet to find a solution for that. Current method is

Re: [squid-users] How to configure a "proxy home" page ?

2018-03-25 Thread Yuri
25.03.2018 20:32, Matus UHLAR - fantomas пишет: Le 25/03/2018 à 13:08, Yuri a écrit : > The problem is not install proxy CA. The problem is identify client > has no proxy CA and redirect, and do it only one time. >>> >>> On 25.03.18 13:46, Nicolas Kovacs wrote: That is exactly t

Re: [squid-users] How to configure a "proxy home" page ?

2018-03-25 Thread Yuri
In principle, I do not consider as secure the technology that allows MiTM (even in theory) - anyway, for what purpose. Since this is so - HTTPS is nothing more than a security theater with a green lock for calming users. This does not mean that I do not care about the security and privacy of user

Re: [squid-users] How to configure a "proxy home" page ?

2018-03-25 Thread Yuri
Therefore, please, PLEASE, never mention SSL Bump and security/privacy in one letter.O:-) These are mutually exclusive concepts. Just like HTTPS and security. 25.03.2018 22:00, Yuri пишет: > > In principle, I do not consider as secure the technology that allows > MiTM (even in theory) - anyway,

Re: [squid-users] How to configure a "proxy home" page ?

2018-03-25 Thread Amos Jeffries
On 26/03/18 04:41, Yuri wrote: > > > 25.03.2018 20:32, Matus UHLAR - fantomas пишет: > Le 25/03/2018 à 13:08, Yuri a écrit : >> The problem is not install proxy CA. The problem is identify client >> has no proxy CA and redirect, and do it only one time. On 25.03.18 13:46, Ni

Re: [squid-users] How to configure a "proxy home" page ?

2018-03-25 Thread Yuri
26.03.2018 02:45, Amos Jeffries пишет: > On 26/03/18 04:41, Yuri wrote: >> >> 25.03.2018 20:32, Matus UHLAR - fantomas пишет: >> Le 25/03/2018 à 13:08, Yuri a écrit : >>> The problem is not install proxy CA. The problem is identify client >>> has no proxy CA and redirect, and do it on

Re: [squid-users] How to configure a "proxy home" page ?

2018-03-25 Thread Amos Jeffries
On 26/03/18 09:49, Yuri wrote: > > > 26.03.2018 02:45, Amos Jeffries пишет: >> On 26/03/18 04:41, Yuri wrote: >>> >>> 25.03.2018 20:32, Matus UHLAR - fantomas пишет: >>> Le 25/03/2018 à 13:08, Yuri a écrit : The problem is not install proxy CA. The problem is identify client >>>

Re: [squid-users] How to configure a "proxy home" page ?

2018-03-25 Thread Yuri
26.03.2018 03:02, Amos Jeffries пишет: > On 26/03/18 09:49, Yuri wrote: >> >> 26.03.2018 02:45, Amos Jeffries пишет: >>> On 26/03/18 04:41, Yuri wrote: 25.03.2018 20:32, Matus UHLAR - fantomas пишет: Le 25/03/2018 à 13:08, Yuri a écrit : > The problem is not install proxy CA

Re: [squid-users] How to configure a "proxy home" page ?

2018-03-25 Thread Amos Jeffries
On 26/03/18 10:16, Yuri wrote: > > > 26.03.2018 03:02, Amos Jeffries пишет: >> On 26/03/18 09:49, Yuri wrote: >>> >>> 26.03.2018 02:45, Amos Jeffries пишет: On 26/03/18 04:41, Yuri wrote: > 25.03.2018 20:32, Matus UHLAR - fantomas пишет: > Le 25/03/2018 à 13:08, Yuri a écrit : >>

Re: [squid-users] How to configure a "proxy home" page ?

2018-03-25 Thread Yuri
26.03.2018 03:55, Amos Jeffries пишет: > On 26/03/18 10:16, Yuri wrote: >> >> 26.03.2018 03:02, Amos Jeffries пишет: >>> On 26/03/18 09:49, Yuri wrote: 26.03.2018 02:45, Amos Jeffries пишет: > On 26/03/18 04:41, Yuri wrote: >> 25.03.2018 20:32, Matus UHLAR - fantomas пишет: >

Re: [squid-users] How to configure a "proxy home" page ?

2018-03-25 Thread Yuri
And yes, HTTPS is insecure by design and all our actions does not it less insecure :-D 26.03.2018 04:03, Yuri пишет: > > 26.03.2018 03:55, Amos Jeffries пишет: >> On 26/03/18 10:16, Yuri wrote: >>> 26.03.2018 03:02, Amos Jeffries пишет: On 26/03/18 09:49, Yuri wrote: > 26.03.2018 02:45,

Re: [squid-users] How to configure a "proxy home" page ?

2018-03-25 Thread Yuri
By the way, Amos. I have an idea spinning around. Is it possible to specify the SSL error of the unknown certificate issuer for the correct processing of the situation when the client does not have a proxy certificate installed? This would greatly facilitate the task that we are discussing. We're

Re: [squid-users] How to configure a "proxy home" page ?

2018-03-25 Thread Yuri
I mean, for example: SSL_ERROR_CLIENT_DOES_NOT_KNOW_THIS_CA during TLS negotiation between client and proxy. To be separated from rare cases when real world CA exists, but not yet included to well-known CA's bundle. Something like this. Now we're can't differentiate UNKNOWN_ISSUES error - it is

Re: [squid-users] How to configure a "proxy home" page ?

2018-03-25 Thread Amos Jeffries
On 26/03/18 11:05, Yuri wrote: > And yes, HTTPS is insecure by design and all our actions does not it > less insecure :-D We are not talking about HTTPS. Only about TLS. Because the TLS decrypt is what is "failing" at the time any of these details we are discussing are relevant. The "page" mentio

Re: [squid-users] How to configure a "proxy home" page ?

2018-03-25 Thread Yuri
26.03.2018 05:05, Amos Jeffries пишет: > On 26/03/18 11:05, Yuri wrote: >> And yes, HTTPS is insecure by design and all our actions does not it >> less insecure :-D > We are not talking about HTTPS. Only about TLS. Because the TLS decrypt > is what is "failing" at the time any of these details we

Re: [squid-users] How to configure a "proxy home" page ?

2018-03-25 Thread Amos Jeffries
On 26/03/18 11:11, Yuri wrote: > By the way, Amos. I have an idea spinning around. Is it possible to > specify the SSL error of the unknown certificate issuer for the correct > processing of the situation when the client does not have a proxy > certificate installed? This would greatly facilitate t

Re: [squid-users] How to configure a "proxy home" page ?

2018-03-25 Thread Amos Jeffries
On 26/03/18 11:15, Yuri wrote: > I mean, for example: > > SSL_ERROR_CLIENT_DOES_NOT_KNOW_THIS_CA > Consider carefully what the words "CLIENT_DOES_NOT_KNOW_THIS_CA" mean in normal English. Amos ___ squid-users mailing list squid-users@lists.squid-cach

Re: [squid-users] How to configure a "proxy home" page ?

2018-03-25 Thread Yuri
Waa. You're right. I hurried. Hmm. Seems we're can't distinguish unknown server CA and unknown proxy CA. Sadly. 26.03.2018 05:14, Amos Jeffries пишет: > On 26/03/18 11:15, Yuri wrote: >> I mean, for example: >> >> SSL_ERROR_CLIENT_DOES_NOT_KNOW_THIS_CA >> > Consider carefully what t

Re: [squid-users] How to configure a "proxy home" page ?

2018-03-25 Thread Amos Jeffries
On 26/03/18 12:07, Yuri wrote: > > 26.03.2018 05:05, Amos Jeffries пишет: >> On 26/03/18 11:05, Yuri wrote: >>> And yes, HTTPS is insecure by design and all our actions does not it >>> less insecure :-D >> We are not talking about HTTPS. Only about TLS. Because the TLS decrypt >> is what is "faili

Re: [squid-users] How to configure a "proxy home" page ?

2018-03-25 Thread Yuri
26.03.2018 05:23, Amos Jeffries пишет: > On 26/03/18 12:07, Yuri wrote: >> 26.03.2018 05:05, Amos Jeffries пишет: >>> On 26/03/18 11:05, Yuri wrote: And yes, HTTPS is insecure by design and all our actions does not it less insecure :-D >>> We are not talking about HTTPS. Only about TLS.

Re: [squid-users] How to configure a "proxy home" page ?

2018-03-25 Thread Amos Jeffries
On 26/03/18 12:34, Yuri wrote: > > 26.03.2018 05:23, Amos Jeffries пишет: >> On 26/03/18 12:07, Yuri wrote: >>> 26.03.2018 05:05, Amos Jeffries пишет: On 26/03/18 11:05, Yuri wrote: > And yes, HTTPS is insecure by design and all our actions does not it > less insecure :-D We are

Re: [squid-users] How to configure a "proxy home" page ?

2018-03-25 Thread Yuri
26.03.2018 06:30, Amos Jeffries пишет: > On 26/03/18 12:34, Yuri wrote: >> 26.03.2018 05:23, Amos Jeffries пишет: >>> On 26/03/18 12:07, Yuri wrote: 26.03.2018 05:05, Amos Jeffries пишет: > On 26/03/18 11:05, Yuri wrote: >> And yes, HTTPS is insecure by design and all our actions doe

Re: [squid-users] How to configure a "proxy home" page ?

2018-03-25 Thread Yuri
26.03.2018 06:41, Yuri пишет: > > 26.03.2018 06:30, Amos Jeffries пишет: >> On 26/03/18 12:34, Yuri wrote: >>> 26.03.2018 05:23, Amos Jeffries пишет: On 26/03/18 12:07, Yuri wrote: > 26.03.2018 05:05, Amos Jeffries пишет: >> On 26/03/18 11:05, Yuri wrote: >>> And yes, HTTPS is in

Re: [squid-users] How to configure a "proxy home" page ?

2018-03-25 Thread Amos Jeffries
On 26/03/18 13:44, Yuri wrote: > > > 26.03.2018 06:41, Yuri пишет: >> >> 26.03.2018 06:30, Amos Jeffries пишет: >>> On 26/03/18 12:34, Yuri wrote: 26.03.2018 05:23, Amos Jeffries пишет: > On 26/03/18 12:07, Yuri wrote: >> 26.03.2018 05:05, Amos Jeffries пишет: >>> On 26/03/18 11:

Re: [squid-users] How to configure a "proxy home" page ?

2018-03-25 Thread Yuri
26.03.2018 07:08, Amos Jeffries пишет: > On 26/03/18 13:44, Yuri wrote: >> >> 26.03.2018 06:41, Yuri пишет: >>> 26.03.2018 06:30, Amos Jeffries пишет: On 26/03/18 12:34, Yuri wrote: > 26.03.2018 05:23, Amos Jeffries пишет: >> On 26/03/18 12:07, Yuri wrote: >>> 26.03.2018 05:05, A

Re: [squid-users] How to configure a "proxy home" page ?

2018-03-26 Thread Sticher, Jascha
ontag, 26. März 2018 03:13 An: squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org Betreff: Re: [squid-users] How to configure a "proxy home" page ? 26.03.2018 07:08, Amos Jeffries пишет: On 26/03/18 13:44, Yuri wrote: 26.03.2018 06:41, Yuri пишет: 26.03.2018 06:30, Amos Jeffries пишет: On 26/03/18 12

Re: [squid-users] How to configure a "proxy home" page ?

2018-03-26 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
Le 25/03/2018 à 13:08, Yuri a écrit : The problem is not install proxy CA. The problem is identify client has no proxy CA and redirect, and do it only one time. On 25.03.18 13:46, Nicolas Kovacs wrote: That is exactly the problem. And I have yet to find a solution for that. Current method is

Re: [squid-users] How to configure a "proxy home" page ?

2018-03-26 Thread Yuri
26.03.2018 15:33, Matus UHLAR - fantomas пишет: >> Le 25/03/2018 à 13:08, Yuri a écrit : >>> The problem is not install proxy CA. The problem is identify client >>> has no proxy CA and redirect, and do it only one time. > > On 25.03.18 13:46, Nicolas Kovacs wrote: >> That

Re: [squid-users] How to configure a "proxy home" page ?

2018-03-26 Thread Yuri
e > elliptic-curve host key on each host for a time > [2] e.g. https://github.com/mitmproxy/mitmproxy > > > > Von: squid-users [mailto:squid-users-boun...@lists.squid-cache.org] Im > Auftrag von Yuri > Gesendet: Montag, 26. März 2018 03:13 > An: squid-users@lists.squid-ca

Re: [squid-users] How to configure a "proxy home" page ?

2018-03-26 Thread Eliezer Croitoru
8704261 Email: elie...@ngtech.co.il -Original Message- From: squid-users On Behalf Of Nicolas Kovacs Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 14:46 To: squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org Subject: Re: [squid-users] How to configure a "proxy home" page ? Le 25/03/2018 à 13:08, Yuri a écrit : > The

Re: [squid-users] How to configure a "proxy home" page ?

2018-03-26 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 26.03.18 19:16, Yuri wrote: Disagree. My point about TLS is quite different. SSH, by design, assumes end-to-end encryption and do not assumes any third-party treats as trusty, like TLS does. actually, the ssh DOES support certificate authorities that sign client or host keys, so you don't

Re: [squid-users] How to configure a "proxy home" page ?

2018-03-26 Thread Yuri
--- > Eliezer Croitoru > Linux System Administrator > Mobile: +972-5-28704261 > Email: elie...@ngtech.co.il > > > -Original Message----- > From: squid-users On Behalf Of > Nicolas Kovacs > Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 14:46 > To: squid-users@lists.squid-cac

Re: [squid-users] How to configure a "proxy home" page ?

2018-03-26 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 25.03.18 23:47, Eliezer Croitoru wrote: I do not know your level of JS or other thing but... a splash page is mearly a transition step. Since you can check using JS if the certificate is installed And how do you push the JS into the client? when client tries to fetch https://www.google.com

Re: [squid-users] How to configure a "proxy home" page ?

2018-03-26 Thread Yuri
26.03.2018 21:36, Matus UHLAR - fantomas пишет: > On 26.03.18 19:16, Yuri wrote: >> Disagree. >> >> My point about TLS is quite different. >> >> SSH, by design, assumes end-to-end encryption and do not assumes any >> third-party treats as trusty, like TLS does. > > actually, the ssh DOES support

Re: [squid-users] How to configure a "proxy home" page ?

2018-03-26 Thread Yuri
Waaa, Matus, the idea is trivial. Catch SSL UNKNOWN ISSUER error on squid's acl and redirect by 302 to proxy page with instructions. Which requires user's involving. How much can repeat the obvious 26.03.2018 21:41, Matus UHLAR - fantomas пишет: > On 25.03.18 23:47, Eliezer Croitoru w

Re: [squid-users] How to configure a "proxy home" page ?

2018-03-26 Thread Yuri
Since the client should be involved, our business is to redirect him to the instructions page where he will make a decision - whether to put a proxy certificate or not. And on this page, in turn, is a script that makes this task easier. But does not install the certificate automatically - in this w

Re: [squid-users] How to configure a "proxy home" page ?

2018-03-26 Thread Eliezer Croitoru
tfy/ Linux System Administrator Mobile: +972-5-28704261 Email: elie...@ngtech.co.il From: squid-users On Behalf Of Yuri Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 18:47 To: squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org Subject: Re: [squid-users] How to configure a "proxy home" page ? Waaa, Matus, the i

Re: [squid-users] How to configure a "proxy home" page ?

2018-03-26 Thread Carlos
Hi, i want configure two squid... Squid son transparent and squid father the autentication.. How can i do that Ing. Carlos___ squid-users mailing list squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org http://lists.squid-cache.org/listinfo/squid-users

Re: [squid-users] How to configure a "proxy home" page ?

2018-03-27 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 26.03.18 21:47, Yuri wrote: Waaa, Matus, the idea is trivial. Catch SSL UNKNOWN ISSUER error on squid's acl and redirect by 302 to proxy page with instructions. Which requires user's involving. How much can repeat the obvious you can't catch the "SSL UNKNOWN ISSUER" on squid, sin

Re: [squid-users] How to configure a "proxy home" page ?

2018-03-27 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 26.03.18 19:16, Yuri wrote: SSH immediately notice you when server key surprisingly changed. 26.03.2018 21:36, Matus UHLAR - fantomas пишет: only when you already have the host key installed in your client. If there's MITM attack before you get the key, you will not notice that, unless you