Re: [sr-dev] [SR-Users] [Kamailio-Users] kamailio 3.0 - the time before freezing

2009-08-24 Thread Klaus Darilion
MÉSZÁROS Mihály schrieb: Klaus Darilion wrote: Iñaki Baz Castillo schrieb: 2009/8/24 Daniel-Constantin Mierla : I am personally aware of companies using Kamailio with several millions of subscribers, using kamailio database schema. Also, I am aware of companies having more or less same l

Re: [sr-dev] [SR-Users] [Kamailio-Users] kamailio 3.0 - the time before freezing

2009-08-24 Thread MÉSZÁROS Mihály
Klaus Darilion wrote: Iñaki Baz Castillo schrieb: 2009/8/24 Daniel-Constantin Mierla : I am personally aware of companies using Kamailio with several millions of subscribers, using kamailio database schema. Also, I am aware of companies having more or less same level of subscriber base usin

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2009-08-24 Thread sip-router
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2009-08-24 Thread sip-router
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Re: [sr-dev] [SR-Users] [Kamailio-Users] kamailio 3.0 - the time before freezing

2009-08-24 Thread Klaus Darilion
Iñaki Baz Castillo schrieb: 2009/8/24 Daniel-Constantin Mierla : I am personally aware of companies using Kamailio with several millions of subscribers, using kamailio database schema. Also, I am aware of companies having more or less same level of subscriber base using SER database schema. A

Re: [sr-dev] [Kamailio-Users] [SR-Users] kamailio 3.0 - the time before freezing

2009-08-24 Thread Daniel-Constantin Mierla
On 24.08.2009 16:47 Uhr, Alex Balashov wrote: Daniel-Constantin Mierla wrote: No, no caching for above mentioned modules. They simply hide a db query in most of the cases. They are supposed to deal with quite large volume of records where caching makes no sense. So you do not loose any perf

Re: [sr-dev] [Kamailio-Users] [SR-Users] kamailio 3.0 - the time before freezing

2009-08-24 Thread Alex Balashov
Daniel-Constantin Mierla wrote: No, no caching for above mentioned modules. They simply hide a db query in most of the cases. They are supposed to deal with quite large volume of records where caching makes no sense. So you do not loose any performance by using sqlops. You can check with bench

Re: [sr-dev] [Kamailio-Users] [SR-Users] kamailio 3.0 - the time before freezing

2009-08-24 Thread Daniel-Constantin Mierla
On 24.08.2009 16:29 Uhr, Alex Balashov wrote: Daniel-Constantin Mierla wrote: Just as a different example, sqlops plus some scripting could obsolete most of db-connected modules - auth_db, alias_db, speeddial, uri_db, a.s.o, but doing so is not at all a good decision. In the case of my imp

Re: [sr-dev] [Kamailio-Users] kamailio 3.0 - the time before freezing

2009-08-24 Thread Daniel-Constantin Mierla
On 24.08.2009 16:05 Uhr, Juha Heinanen wrote: Daniel-Constantin Mierla writes: > :-) -- ahh, yes, imo, srctl sort of exists already, but is called > kamctl. are you saying that one can control s modules with kamctl? i know that one can control both s and k modules with serctl (except for a

Re: [sr-dev] [Kamailio-Users] [SR-Users] kamailio 3.0 - the time before freezing

2009-08-24 Thread Alex Balashov
Daniel-Constantin Mierla wrote: Just as a different example, sqlops plus some scripting could obsolete most of db-connected modules - auth_db, alias_db, speeddial, uri_db, a.s.o, but doing so is not at all a good decision. In the case of my implementations, I have to do this quite frequently

Re: [sr-dev] [Kamailio-Users] [SR-Users] kamailio 3.0 - the time before freezing

2009-08-24 Thread Daniel-Constantin Mierla
On 24.08.2009 15:57 Uhr, Iñaki Baz Castillo wrote: 2009/8/24 Daniel-Constantin Mierla : I am personally aware of companies using Kamailio with several millions of subscribers, using kamailio database schema. Also, I am aware of companies having more or less same level of subscriber base us

Re: [sr-dev] [Kamailio-Users] kamailio 3.0 - the time before freezing

2009-08-24 Thread Juha Heinanen
Daniel-Constantin Mierla writes: > :-) -- ahh, yes, imo, srctl sort of exists already, but is called > kamctl. are you saying that one can control s modules with kamctl? i know that one can control both s and k modules with serctl (except for async t_uac_dlg). -- juha ___

Re: [sr-dev] [SR-Users] [Kamailio-Users] kamailio 3.0 - the time before freezing

2009-08-24 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
2009/8/24 Daniel-Constantin Mierla : > I am personally aware of companies using Kamailio with several millions of > subscribers, using kamailio database schema. Also, I am aware of companies > having more or less same level of subscriber base using SER database schema. > All have additional tools

Re: [sr-dev] [Kamailio-Users] kamailio 3.0 - the time before freezing

2009-08-24 Thread Daniel-Constantin Mierla
On 24.08.2009 15:14 Uhr, Juha Heinanen wrote: Daniel-Constantin Mierla writes: > kamctl is in sip-router, check tools directory. ok, i looked at scripts dir where it used to be in k. > You are more than welcome to implement the srctl, I am going to > contribute if I am able to and use it

Re: [sr-dev] [Kamailio-Users] [SR-Users] kamailio 3.0 - the time before freezing

2009-08-24 Thread Daniel-Constantin Mierla
On 24.08.2009 15:08 Uhr, Alex Balashov wrote: Daniel-Constantin Mierla wrote: I am personally aware of companies using Kamailio with several millions of subscribers, using kamailio database schema. Also, I am aware of companies having more or less same level of subscriber base using SER dat

Re: [sr-dev] [Kamailio-Users] kamailio 3.0 - the time before freezing

2009-08-24 Thread Juha Heinanen
Daniel-Constantin Mierla writes: > kamctl is in sip-router, check tools directory. ok, i looked at scripts dir where it used to be in k. > You are more than welcome to implement the srctl, I am going to > contribute if I am able to and use it. srctl sort of exists already, but is is called

Re: [sr-dev] [SR-Users] [Kamailio-Users] kamailio 3.0 - the time before freezing

2009-08-24 Thread Alex Balashov
Daniel-Constantin Mierla wrote: I am personally aware of companies using Kamailio with several millions of subscribers, using kamailio database schema. Also, I am aware of companies having more or less same level of subscriber base using SER database schema. All have additional tools for manag

Re: [sr-dev] [Kamailio-Users] kamailio 3.0 - the time before freezing

2009-08-24 Thread Daniel-Constantin Mierla
On 24.08.2009 14:54 Uhr, Juha Heinanen wrote: Daniel-Constantin Mierla writes: > Kamailio is the same -- will be a new major release of the sip server > everybody know so far -- new features in core plus some new modules, > either new development (memcache) or imported from ser (iptrtprox

Re: [sr-dev] [SR-Users] [Kamailio-Users] kamailio 3.0 - the time before freezing

2009-08-24 Thread Daniel-Constantin Mierla
On 24.08.2009 14:32 Uhr, Iñaki Baz Castillo wrote: I must agree with Alex. Sincerely I will wait until SR is really released to start with it. And with "really released" I mean: when both kamailio and SER concepts disapear entirely from SR (no more K/S-modules, K/S-functions, K/S-components, K/S

Re: [sr-dev] [Kamailio-Users] kamailio 3.0 - the time before freezing

2009-08-24 Thread Juha Heinanen
Daniel-Constantin Mierla writes: > Kamailio is the same -- will be a new major release of the sip server > everybody know so far -- new features in core plus some new modules, > either new development (memcache) or imported from ser (iptrtproxy). To > update from kamailio 1.5 to 3.0 you wil

Re: [sr-dev] [SR-Users] [Kamailio-Users] kamailio 3.0 - the time before freezing

2009-08-24 Thread Alex Balashov
Martin Hoffmann wrote: Alex Balashov wrote: What this fails to explain in any way is what the intended applications of K vs. SR are from an end-user perspective. There is quite some substantial differences between SER 2.x and Kamailio. However, they are at a level further up -- most importantl

Re: [sr-dev] [SR-Users] [Kamailio-Users] kamailio 3.0 - the time before freezing

2009-08-24 Thread Martin Hoffmann
Alex Balashov wrote: > > What this fails to explain in any way is what the intended > applications of K vs. SR are from an end-user perspective. There is quite some substantial differences between SER 2.x and Kamailio. However, they are at a level further up -- most importantly completely differe

Re: [sr-dev] [Kamailio-Users] kamailio 3.0 - the time before freezing

2009-08-24 Thread Alex Balashov
Daniel-Constantin Mierla wrote: Hello, On 24.08.2009 14:14 Uhr, Alex Balashov wrote: The sip-router.org documentation is already excessively complicated and difficult to understand for anyone who does not routinely work with both the K and S code. At this point, the documentation, while vol

Re: [sr-dev] [SR-Users] [Kamailio-Users] kamailio 3.0 - the time before freezing

2009-08-24 Thread Juha Heinanen
Iñaki Baz Castillo writes: > What I don't understand is the reasons to make current SR working with > K and S features/modules compatibility. We don't need a SR working > solution right now (since Kamailio and SER do exist), do we?. Wouldn't > be better to spent devel time in porting the requi

Re: [sr-dev] [SR-Users] [Kamailio-Users] kamailio 3.0 - the time before freezing

2009-08-24 Thread Alex Balashov
Iñaki Baz Castillo wrote: What I don't understand is the reasons to make current SR working with K and S features/modules compatibility. We don't need a SR working solution right now (since Kamailio and SER do exist), do we?. Wouldn't be better to spent devel time in porting the required K/S mod

Re: [sr-dev] [Kamailio-Users] kamailio 3.0 - the time before freezing

2009-08-24 Thread Daniel-Constantin Mierla
Hello, On 24.08.2009 14:14 Uhr, Alex Balashov wrote: The sip-router.org documentation is already excessively complicated and difficult to understand for anyone who does not routinely work with both the K and S code. At this point, the documentation, while voluminous, is overwhelming and, in p

Re: [sr-dev] [SR-Users] [Kamailio-Users] kamailio 3.0 - the time before freezing

2009-08-24 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
2009/8/24 Alex Balashov : > Please be careful amidst all this to remember that this "integration" could > be the undoing of the Kamailio/SR project, and may drive people to OpenSIPS. >  In the end, it is the users that matter. > > The sip-router.org documentation is already excessively complicated

Re: [sr-dev] are selects documented somewhere?

2009-08-24 Thread Daniel-Constantin Mierla
On 24.08.2009 14:01 Uhr, Martin Hoffmann wrote: Daniel-Constantin Mierla wrote: Or, if developers commit to update the page once they add new selects, we can work directly on the list, merging the two sections. It is what we do in Kamailio side of PV/transformations - but there was no objdu

Re: [sr-dev] [Kamailio-Users] kamailio 3.0 - the time before freezing

2009-08-24 Thread Alex Balashov
Please be careful amidst all this to remember that this "integration" could be the undoing of the Kamailio/SR project, and may drive people to OpenSIPS. In the end, it is the users that matter. The sip-router.org documentation is already excessively complicated and difficult to understand for

Re: [sr-dev] [Kamailio-Users] kamailio 3.0 - the time before freezing

2009-08-24 Thread Daniel-Constantin Mierla
On 24.08.2009 13:58 Uhr, Juha Heinanen wrote: Daniel-Constantin Mierla writes: > You can still use one interface though - MI is fully available and does > (pseudo) async xmlrpc commands. that is not true if you use modules from both s and k (like domain domain module, for example, that is

Re: [sr-dev] are selects documented somewhere?

2009-08-24 Thread Martin Hoffmann
Daniel-Constantin Mierla wrote: > > Or, if developers commit to update the page once they add new > selects, we can work directly on the list, merging the two sections. > It is what we do in Kamailio side of PV/transformations - but there > was no objdump tool for auto-generation, though. I think

Re: [sr-dev] [SR-Users] kamailio 3.0 - the time before freezing

2009-08-24 Thread Daniel-Constantin Mierla
Hello, On 24.08.2009 13:49 Uhr, Iñaki Baz Castillo wrote: 2009/8/24 Daniel-Constantin Mierla : Hello everybody, during the last IRC devel meeting, we pinned end of summer to be the time to enter testing phase for the new major release - codenamed kamailio 3.0. There was quite a lot of bra

Re: [sr-dev] [Kamailio-Users] kamailio 3.0 - the time before freezing

2009-08-24 Thread Juha Heinanen
Daniel-Constantin Mierla writes: > You can still use one interface though - MI is fully available and does > (pseudo) async xmlrpc commands. that is not true if you use modules from both s and k (like domain domain module, for example, that is much more advanced in s). besides, s xmlrpc inter

Re: [sr-dev] [Kamailio-Users] kamailio 3.0 - the time before freezing

2009-08-24 Thread Daniel-Constantin Mierla
On 24.08.2009 13:52 Uhr, Daniel-Constantin Mierla wrote: Hello, On 24.08.2009 13:47 Uhr, Juha Heinanen wrote: Daniel-Constantin Mierla writes: > If you have discovered something else, let us know. well, just before your message i send a question to andrei about async (or delayed reply) sup

Re: [sr-dev] [Kamailio-Users] kamailio 3.0 - the time before freezing

2009-08-24 Thread Daniel-Constantin Mierla
Hello, On 24.08.2009 13:47 Uhr, Juha Heinanen wrote: Daniel-Constantin Mierla writes: > If you have discovered something else, let us know. well, just before your message i send a question to andrei about async (or delayed reply) support for t_uac_dlg. without that i'm not able to start usin

Re: [sr-dev] [SR-Users] kamailio 3.0 - the time before freezing

2009-08-24 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
2009/8/24 Daniel-Constantin Mierla : > Hello everybody, > > during the last IRC devel meeting, we pinned end of summer to be the time to > enter testing phase for the new major release - codenamed kamailio 3.0. > > There was quite a lot of brand new features, considering that most of devel > effort

[sr-dev] [Kamailio-Users] kamailio 3.0 - the time before freezing

2009-08-24 Thread Juha Heinanen
Daniel-Constantin Mierla writes: > If you have discovered something else, let us know. well, just before your message i send a question to andrei about async (or delayed reply) support for t_uac_dlg. without that i'm not able to start using sip router, because having to use two xmlrpc managemen

Re: [sr-dev] are selects documented somewhere?

2009-08-24 Thread Daniel-Constantin Mierla
Hi Martin, On 24.08.2009 13:37 Uhr, Martin Hoffmann wrote: Daniel-Constantin Mierla wrote: Thanks, I used awk to generate listing in dokuwiki: http://sip-router.org/wiki/cookbooks/selects/devel#raw_list How do we procede from there? Should we keep the page in some format that allows

Re: [sr-dev] are selects documented somewhere?

2009-08-24 Thread Martin Hoffmann
Daniel-Constantin Mierla wrote: > Thanks, I used awk to generate listing in dokuwiki: > http://sip-router.org/wiki/cookbooks/selects/devel#raw_list How do we procede from there? Should we keep the page in some format that allows magically adding new selects from ser_objdump output or do we just t

[sr-dev] new PV class: $sel(name)

2009-08-24 Thread Daniel-Constantin Mierla
Hello, there is a new PV class that provides access to SER select variables. A list with available selects can be found at: http://sip-router.org/wiki/cookbooks/selects/devel Therefore, all Kamailio modules relying on PV framework can get access to select values without any change. See exampl

Re: [sr-dev] are selects documented somewhere?

2009-08-24 Thread Daniel-Constantin Mierla
Thanks, I used awk to generate listing in dokuwiki: http://sip-router.org/wiki/cookbooks/selects/devel#raw_list Cheers, Daniel On 24.08.2009 11:56 Uhr, Jan Janak wrote: Attached is the select list. Jan. On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Jan Janak wrote: On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 5:26 PM,

[sr-dev] kamailio 3.0 - the time before freezing

2009-08-24 Thread Daniel-Constantin Mierla
Hello everybody, during the last IRC devel meeting, we pinned end of summer to be the time to enter testing phase for the new major release - codenamed kamailio 3.0. There was quite a lot of brand new features, considering that most of devel effort was directed to integration. A try to colle

[sr-dev] async (delayed reply) support for t_uac_dlg in first release?

2009-08-24 Thread Juha Heinanen
andrei you wrote in july regarding async (delayed reply) support for t_uac_dlg: Ok, I'll add async support (in fact delayed reply support since it's not true async), at least to xmlrpc (turns out that it's quite easy since xmlrpc reuses sr tcp). For ctl/binrpc it would be easy for datagram