Re: Coal fired BAGRS

2001-05-02 Thread Michael Martin
Hi all, Gary Broeder wrote: he did not widen the frames but instead opted to build a deep firebox with solid copper legs to help conduct some of the heat up into the boiler as there was no room for the common water legs. That's correct. I will post a drawing in the next day or two that

RE: Coal fired BAGRS

2001-05-02 Thread Casey Sterbenz
pressure noted in the writeup? Casey Sterbenz From: Shyvers, Steve Subject: RE: Coal fired BAGRS Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 16:42:18 -0700 Dave and the list, Maybe I was joking a little about the Ruby. Take a close look at Henk Bunte's description of his home-made coal-fired loco on his website

RE: Coal fired BAGRS

2001-05-02 Thread Harry Wade
At 08:16 AM 5/2/01 -0400, you wrote: I notice that there are no crown stays above the firebox in Henk's design. Would that be a problem at the 60 psi working pressure noted in the writeup? Casey Sterbenz Casey, A combination of things does away with the need for them. The crown sheet of

Coal fired BAGRS

2001-05-01 Thread SALTYCRABB
Cooley and a super Aster kit built by Ed Hume. But what really took the prize was -- (drum roll please) - John Thomson's COAL FIRED BAGRS engine. As you know if you read SitG, John has published over 25 mods for this modest little engine. Saturday he showed off his greatest accomplishment

Re: Coal fired BAGRS

2001-05-01 Thread Terry Griner
kit built by Ed Hume. But what really took the prize was -- (drum roll please) - John Thomson's COAL FIRED BAGRS engine. As you know if you read SitG, John has published over 25 mods for this modest little engine. Saturday he showed off his greatest accomplishment with his normal modesty

Re: Coal fired BAGRS

2001-05-01 Thread trotfox
Now you guys just have to help me convince him to make a bear-trap stack to catch all the cinders that it spews during operation! Makes fer some purty farworks! {:] Trot, the slightly-singed, fox... On Tue, 1 May 2001, VR Bass wrote: Congratulations, John! Now, tell us how you got it to

RE: Coal fired BAGRS

2001-05-01 Thread Shyvers, Steve
Jim and the list: Yes! Congratulations to John! He absolutely must share the details about how he did it. Now who will pick up the challenge and make a coal-fired Ruby? Steve

RE: Coal fired BAGRS

2001-05-01 Thread Dave Cole
At 11:28 AM -0700 5/1/01, Shyvers, Steve wrote: Now who will pick up the challenge and make a coal-fired Ruby? This begs the question: what are the components and steps necessary to make a conversion from gas to coal? Have the conversions John Shawe has made been from gas or alcohol? Or was

Re: Coal fired BAGRS

2001-05-01 Thread Clark Lord
John Shawe makes a new locomotive style boiler that fits into the old space. He does not use the original boiler. He does reuse the fittings such as the water glass, safety valves, throttle controls. He adds a blower control if needed and rebuilds the rear frame to accommodate the locomotive

Re: Coal fired BAGRS

2001-05-01 Thread Jim Curry
Dave: John Shaw makes a new locomotive style boiler so the original fuel source is not material to the converted engine. Major issues are space between or above the frames for the firebox/ashpan. From there he needs some new plumbing for a blower and nozzle and in many cases he puts an axle

RE: Coal fired BAGRS

2001-05-01 Thread VR Bass
This begs the question: what are the components and steps necessary to make a conversion from gas to coal? Boiler and smokebox, exhaust nozzle, feedwater pump(s). Did I forget anything? I'm not sure Ruby has room for a sufficient firebox between her frames, though one as long as my dummy

Re: Coal fired BAGRS

2001-05-01 Thread Clark Lord
There's an echo here in the small scale list. CBL Glad you mentioned the nozzle and axle pump Jim. Another modification needed is a way to open the smoke box door so the flues can be brushed. Jim Curry wrote: Dave: John Shaw makes a new locomotive style boiler so the original fuel

Re: Coal fired BAGRS

2001-05-01 Thread trotfox
It would be possible to modify the frames by carefully bending them wider then adding to them so that the firebox could ride between them. If you remove the cab floor the frames are just left hanging there. :) You'd have to get it just right though as the axles could bind if the back of the

RE: Coal fired BAGRS

2001-05-01 Thread Shyvers, Steve
Dave and the list, Maybe I was joking a little about the Ruby. Take a close look at Henk Bunte's description of his home-made coal-fired loco on his website at www.modelbouwatelier.nl. The firebox is about 7/8 wide and 2-3/8 long per his drawing, which you can download. The firebox is deep and

Re: Coal fired BAGRS

2001-05-01 Thread Gary Broeder
Have the conversions John Shawe has made been from gas or alcohol? John has converted the well known gas fired Roundhouse Sandy River #24 to coal as well as others. I read an article some time ago in Tom Cooper's Steamlines where John reboilered an Aster Schools to coal fired. I recall

Re: Coal fired BAGRS

2001-05-01 Thread VR Bass
Congratulations, John! Now, tell us how you got it to breathe. When I was there a month or so ago, John and Landon and I brainstormed about why John's boiler was so short of breath, and how he might modify it. I'd love to hear what it took. Homebrewed coal-fired boilers are pretty rare