Re: O.T.- Vanderbilt tender

2001-09-04 Thread Anthony Dixon
Keith, Trent et al, Although not familiar with use of water troughs in US. I can add some info regarding UK water trough controls. i.e. Actual distance to the trough was signposted for the crews, from the previous signal in yards, together with pick

Re: O.T.- Vanderbilt tender

2001-09-03 Thread Keith Taylor
- Original Message - From: Chris Wolcott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I always wondered what they spiked the track to along these troughs. Chris, The tracks were constructed in the normal fashion. The track pans were quite shallow and sat right on top of ordinary ties. The quantity of water was

Re: O.T.- Vanderbilt tender

2001-09-03 Thread Chris Wolcott
I always wondered what they spiked the track to along these troughs.

Re: O.T.- Vanderbilt tender

2001-09-02 Thread Geoff Spenceley
Keiths et al. Keith Manison wrote: >>. At best the footplate crew got soaked, at worst it was known to damage the first carriage behind the loco, and if the windows were left open, drench the passengers. << There was a story related in a recent edition of the Brit "Steam World" where this happe

Re: O.T.- Vanderbilt tender

2001-09-01 Thread Keith Manison
Keith Taylor wrote: > It is a known fact > that tenders do not hold water very well after ripping the entire > undercarriage off! In the UK the track was graded down into the trough so that if the scoop was lowered too early or raised too late it was supposed to clear the ends of the trough. At

Re: O.T.- Vanderbilt tender

2001-09-01 Thread Keith Taylor
From: Keith Manison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: O.T.- Vanderbilt tender > As well as liberally watering the lineside, if the fireman was not sharp > about raising the scoop when the tender was about full it would > overflow. Now this was a pretty violent event as water w

Re: O.T.- Vanderbilt tender

2001-09-01 Thread Keith Manison
Trent, Wtaer troughs were common on many main lines in the UK. That's one reason British locos had proportionately smaller tenders that US locos, they "topped up" a couple of time on a long non-stop trip. As well as liberally watering the lineside, if the fireman was not sharp about raising the

Re: O.T.- Vanderbilt tender

2001-09-01 Thread Trent Dowler
Harry, Thanks once again for passing along the addition information. The "on-the-fly" operation is pretty much the way I had envisioned it. Bet that was a a sight to see. Preferably from a distance, no doubt. Sounds like trying to fill a bucket with a fire hose. My searches (although co

Re: O.T.- Vanderbilt tender

2001-09-01 Thread Keith Taylor
- Original Message - From: Trent Dowler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: O.T.- Vanderbilt tender > Harry Wade wrote: > > > They also tended to have a larger fuel to water ratio because the NYC > > had begun to use on-the-fly water pickup and needed less wate

Re: O.T.- Vanderbilt tender

2001-09-01 Thread Harry Wade
At 02:25 PM 9/1/01 -0500, you wrote: >Your answer brings up another question. What is "on-the-fly water pickup"? >I've heard about it, but never actually knew what it was. Trent, Many railroads installed shallow miles-long water troughs between the rails of main lines which were filled with

Re: O.T.- Vanderbilt tender

2001-09-01 Thread Trent Dowler
Hello Harry, Thank you very much for the great explanation. Much appreciated. Sounds like Chris was on the right track as well. (pun intended.) Your answer brings up another question. What is "on-the-fly water pickup"? I've heard about it, but never actually knew what it was. (It does howev

Re: O.T.- Vanderbilt tender

2001-09-01 Thread Chris Wolcott
I don't remember why I think this, but I thought the Vanderbilt was named for 'Commodore Vanderbilt', I believe of the NYC. Did he have them designed/built? Trent Dowler wrote: >I mentioned a Vanderbilt tender to another steam enthusiast this past > week and he asked why it was called a

Re: O.T.- Vanderbilt tender

2001-09-01 Thread Harry Wade
At 12:53 PM 9/1/01 -0500, you wrote: >I mentioned a Vanderbilt tender to another steam enthusiast this past >week and he asked why it was called a Vanderbilt. Trent, A round tank (a la Vanderbilt ) has several advantages over a rectangular tank. A round tank holds more water than a rectang

O.T.- Vanderbilt tender

2001-09-01 Thread Trent Dowler
Hello list, I mentioned a Vanderbilt tender to another steam enthusiast this past week and he asked why it was called a Vanderbilt. I didn't have an answer, and I haven't been able to turn up the answer in my personal library or on the net. I've found LOTS of mentions and pics of Vanderbilt te