Are there no farmers amongst this group?
Frost heave is easily seen every spring. The rocks get pushed out of the
ground and must be removed to prevent damage to equipment.
Its also noted that bigger rocks, laterally, come up quicker than smaller
rocks!
ANdre'
At 01:05 PM 1/10/05 -0800, you wrote:
>The post is PUSHED out of the ground by the expansion under it's bottom
>according to Harry.
Royce,
I would answer this in more detail (which I'd hoped to avoid) but
I'm trying to get out of here for DH and time is short. Even so my answer
would prob
mdenning wrote:
Lemme see now,
I can "grab" PVC or iron with my hands but mother nature can't?
Of course SHE can, and does. And her grip is way stronger than our
hands. And your hands are gonna slip before you move a post out of
frozen ground. I only posit that if her grip is foiled with som
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Harry Wade wrote:
At 11:40 AM 1/8/05 -0800, you w
Harry Wade wrote:
At 11:40 AM 1/8/05 -0800, you wrote:
on the matter of frost heave,
I'm enraged, . . . well maybe only mildly irritated . . . . :-)
1. I am beginning to understand that what is called "frost heave", is
the process whereby freezing soil at the surface of the ground can only
. Lunkenheimer's associate.
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Hi Royce,
Th
Dear friends-and all those with misconceptions of how to control the
frost heaving of your vertical track bed supports. I beat it by moving to
Mexico city. No freezing here. But you northerners can correct the heaving
by not letting the vertical track supports move vertically by making your
Hi Royce,
That is about the size of it, you are correct. If you look at a common utility
pole it is the big end that is in the ground and
they do not get jacked out by freeze / thaw cycles. The common "T" fence post
is quite susceptible to jacking because of
the configuration of the post. In
At 11:40 AM 1/8/05 -0800, you wrote:
>on the matter of frost heave,
I'm enraged, . . . well maybe only mildly irritated . . . . :-)
>1. I am beginning to understand that what is called "frost heave", is
>the process whereby freezing soil at the surface of the ground can only
>expand UP as
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> Hi All. At the risk of enraging those who hold strong convictions on
> the ma
Hi All. At the risk of enraging those who hold strong convictions on
the matter of frost heave, I would like to throw out some ideas.
1. I am beginning to understand that what is called "frost heave", is
the process whereby freezing soil at the surface of the ground can only
expand UP as the w
rida. Monroe county (Key West) is the
only county further south than Collier. Many have been hoping that
a severe freeze there would occur.
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At 01:42 PM 1/5/05 -0600, you wrote:
>The depth of placement will not have any large impact on individual side
thrust
If by this you mean a post's ability to resist movement from side
thrust or impact, this is untrue. Depth does affect side thrust resistance.
By the same token concrete
I do not concur with your analysis. We are discussing a small area post and
the placing the base of this post below the
"frost line" will have little benefit to stability. As the layout does not
cover a large area it would be reasonable to assume
that the conditions are homogeneous. The dept
At 10:48 AM 1/5/05 -0600, Rich wrote:
OK, now here is my take on this "frost heave" item. To have any 'heaving"
there has to be either differential expansion or contraction. This will
not happen across a free floating post that is in the ground almost any
distance at all.
I have to disagree, R
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