[SSSD-users] Re: Do any commercial NAS vendors use the SSD ID mapping algorithm?

2022-05-18 Thread Patrick Goetz
On 5/5/22 08:31, Spike White wrote: Ed, That sounds like an excellent plan.  Every major NAS vendor (I work for one) supports LDAP authentication.   Even against AD domain controllers. (I'm a Linux engineer, not a storage engineer -- so I don't know the details of the NAS LDAP auth, only

[SSSD-users] Re: Do any commercial NAS vendors use the SSD ID mapping algorithm?

2022-05-09 Thread mythmail
Thanks Bryan, Yes, that's my point!  I still feel that the issue is with the NAS vendors.  Adding the SSSD algorithm would be a small amount of effort and "just work" for most of us working with Linux systems.  As I mentioned before it seems that multiple people say they've asked their NAS

[SSSD-users] Re: Do any commercial NAS vendors use the SSD ID mapping algorithm?

2022-05-09 Thread Bryan Smith
Define 'large'? In general many NAS, SAN and even Network vendors have issues with LDAP trees and attributes any way. So UID, GID and UPN (user@domain) and NT/Dom SID enumeration and mapping is a secondary issue. I.e., I spend a lot more time dealing with maintaining a 'light' 389/RHDS or

[SSSD-users] Re: Do any commercial NAS vendors use the SSD ID mapping algorithm?

2022-05-09 Thread Spike White
Ed, I'm a Linux engineer, reading and learning on this sssd mailing list. I had just never seen a large company that used that algorithm that's all. Spike On Mon, May 9, 2022 at 2:21 AM wrote: > Hey Spike, > > I'm curious, why is it you previously said that SSSD based ID mapping is > only

[SSSD-users] Re: Do any commercial NAS vendors use the SSD ID mapping algorithm?

2022-05-09 Thread mythmail
Hey Spike, I'm curious, why is it you previously said that SSSD based ID mapping is only used at small scale? I understand that it's not using a single source of truth (the directory) to provide UID and GID values, but the algorithm is so consistent. I ran a test across all our systems in one

[SSSD-users] Re: Do any commercial NAS vendors use the SSD ID mapping algorithm?

2022-05-05 Thread mythmail
Hey Spike, We need to use NFS v4 with Kerberos for security reasons. This reminds me why we've kept running our file servers on Linux VMs - everything just worked with SSD and at a surprising scale.  Now (if we go ahead) we've got a lot of work to do affecting all Linux systems, all to just

[SSSD-users] Re: Do any commercial NAS vendors use the SSD ID mapping algorithm?

2022-05-05 Thread Spike White
Ed, That sounds like an excellent plan. Every major NAS vendor (I work for one) supports LDAP authentication. Even against AD domain controllers. (I'm a Linux engineer, not a storage engineer -- so I don't know the details of the NAS LDAP auth, only that it's fully supported and used here

[SSSD-users] Re: Do any commercial NAS vendors use the SSD ID mapping algorithm?

2022-05-04 Thread Joakim Tjernlund
On Thu, 2022-05-05 at 00:49 +0200, Joakim Tjernlund wrote: > On Wed, 2022-05-04 at 22:21 +, mythm...@runbox.com wrote: > > Thanks Spike! > > > > It looks like extending the AD to cater for UIDs and GIDs is the most > > supported and least effort change to allow us to use any NAS. > > > > If

[SSSD-users] Re: Do any commercial NAS vendors use the SSD ID mapping algorithm?

2022-05-04 Thread Joakim Tjernlund
On Wed, 2022-05-04 at 22:21 +, mythm...@runbox.com wrote: > Thanks Spike! > > It looks like extending the AD to cater for UIDs and GIDs is the most > supported and least effort change to allow us to use any NAS. > > If we get approval, we'll likely come up with a system to populate these >

[SSSD-users] Re: Do any commercial NAS vendors use the SSD ID mapping algorithm?

2022-05-04 Thread mythmail
Thanks Spike! It looks like extending the AD to cater for UIDs and GIDs is the most supported and least effort change to allow us to use any NAS. If we get approval, we'll likely come up with a system to populate these values in the AD from an existing SSSD Linux client so that they match,

[SSSD-users] Re: Do any commercial NAS vendors use the SSD ID mapping algorithm?

2022-05-03 Thread Spike White
Ed, Got this from our AD team: This MS article contains info regarding RFC 2307 and mentions it being included in Window 2003 and later. Hopefully, this helps. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/openspecs/windows_protocols/ms-adts/213f515b-9cf2-43e8-b6c8-47b13cd61281 We are currently up to

[SSSD-users] Re: Do any commercial NAS vendors use the SSD ID mapping algorithm?

2022-05-01 Thread mythmail
On 30/4/22 8:03 am, Ed wrote: From what I've read that RFC and the schema extension for AD has been deprecated for some time. (Sorry I can't find the link now on my phone but I'm confident that it's right) Hi Spike, Turns out that I might be wrong.  Microsoft pulled their "Identity

[SSSD-users] Re: Do any commercial NAS vendors use the SSD ID mapping algorithm?

2022-04-29 Thread mythmail
Thanks for the suggestion James! That sounds similar to what our existing SAN vendor (Hitachi) does with their NAS devices. We avoided it as it had a very low maximum user limit (from memory only 1000 at a time) and it sounded unmanageable through automation anyway (no API etc). It sounds

[SSSD-users] Re: Do any commercial NAS vendors use the SSD ID mapping algorithm?

2022-04-29 Thread mythmail
Hi Spike, Yes I mean exactly that. From what I've read that RFC and the schema extension for AD has been deprecated for some time. (Sorry I can't find the link now on my phone but I'm confident that it's right) Thanks! Ed ___ sssd-users mailing list

[SSSD-users] Re: Do any commercial NAS vendors use the SSD ID mapping algorithm?

2022-04-29 Thread James Ralston
On Thu, Apr 28, 2022 at 10:39 PM wrote: > For good reasons we need to move from Linux based file servers to a > NAS. The problem is that all our Linux systems use the SSD ID > mapping algorithm to calculate UID and GIDs (and it works > great!). We've not found a commercial NAS vendor who

[SSSD-users] Re: Do any commercial NAS vendors use the SSD ID mapping algorithm?

2022-04-29 Thread Spike White
Ed, When you say "uses the SSSD ID mapping algorithm to calculate UID and GID", do you mean that algorithm that formulaically calculates the user's UID off the Windows SID? We are a large company (~25 - 27k sssd clients), but we use the RFC 2307bis schema extension from Microsoft. Beaucoup NAS