FreeBSD 14.0-RC3 Now Available

2023-10-27 Thread Glen Barber
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 The third RC build of the 14.0-RELEASE release cycle is now available. Installation images are available for: o 14.0-RC3 amd64 GENERIC o 14.0-RC3 i386 GENERIC o 14.0-RC3 powerpc GENERIC o 14.0-RC3 powerpc64 GENERIC64 o 14.0-RC3 powerpc64le GENERIC6

Re: periodic daily takes a very long time to run (14-stable)

2023-10-27 Thread Guido Falsi
On 27/10/23 19:09, void wrote: On Fri, Oct 27, 2023 at 05:38:58PM +0200, Guido Falsi wrote: If this script is the culprit is easily tested, disable it and see. I guess you can stay a few days without checking for negative permissions. I'm unsure how to disable that one script from periodic. b

Re: periodic daily takes a very long time to run (14-stable)

2023-10-27 Thread Guido Falsi
On 27/10/23 19:09, void wrote: On Fri, Oct 27, 2023 at 05:38:58PM +0200, Guido Falsi wrote: If this script is the culprit is easily tested, disable it and see. I guess you can stay a few days without checking for negative permissions. I'm unsure how to disable that one script from periodic. b

Re: periodic daily takes a very long time to run (14-stable)

2023-10-27 Thread void
On Fri, Oct 27, 2023 at 05:38:58PM +0200, Guido Falsi wrote: Also, $MP is defined in such a way to exclude filesystems that set "nosuid/noexec". I do happen to have those setup for my ccache directory so it is skipping that. With zfs it is especially easy to set these flags, and I think havin

Re: periodic daily takes a very long time to run (14-stable)

2023-10-27 Thread void
On Fri, Oct 27, 2023 at 05:38:58PM +0200, Guido Falsi wrote: If this script is the culprit is easily tested, disable it and see. I guess you can stay a few days without checking for negative permissions. I'm unsure how to disable that one script from periodic. but I think that what you recomm

Re: periodic daily takes a very long time to run (14-stable)

2023-10-27 Thread void
On Fri, Oct 27, 2023 at 05:23:49PM +0200, Ronald Klop wrote: Well. You could remove daily_clean_disks_enable="YES" from /etc/periodic.conf. That saves you the "find". I have never used it before. The default is "off". Yes, I'll try that, but it's a very recent addition. The periodic daily prob

Re: periodic daily takes a very long time to run (14-stable)

2023-10-27 Thread Guido Falsi
On 27/10/23 17:24, void wrote: Hi, On Fri, Oct 27, 2023 at 11:01:03AM -0400, Paul Mather wrote: This doesn't affect the periodic daily run (to my knowledge) # ps x | grep periodic 59319 14  S+   0:00.00 grep periodic 27376 17  I+   0:00.00 /bin/sh - /etc/periodic/security/110.neggrp

Re: periodic daily takes a very long time to run (14-stable)

2023-10-27 Thread void
Hi, On Fri, Oct 27, 2023 at 11:01:03AM -0400, Paul Mather wrote: This doesn't affect the periodic daily run (to my knowledge) # ps x | grep periodic 59319 14 S+ 0:00.00 grep periodic 27376 17 I+ 0:00.00 /bin/sh - /etc/periodic/security/110.neggrpperm 27987 17 I+ 0:00.00

Re: periodic daily takes a very long time to run (14-stable)

2023-10-27 Thread Ronald Klop
Van: void Datum: vrijdag, 27 oktober 2023 16:42 Aan: freebsd-sta...@freebsd.org Onderwerp: Re: periodic daily takes a very long time to run (14-stable) On Fri, Oct 27, 2023 at 03:34:35PM +0200, Ronald Klop wrote: > >What stands out to me is that you do quite a lot of writes on the disk. (I mig

Re: periodic daily takes a very long time to run (14-stable)

2023-10-27 Thread Guido Falsi
On 27/10/23 17:07, Guido Falsi wrote: On 27/10/23 16:42, void wrote: On Fri, Oct 27, 2023 at 03:34:35PM +0200, Ronald Klop wrote: So if my observation is right it might be interesting to find out what is writing. would ktrace and/or truss be useful? something else? The truss -p output of th

Re: periodic daily takes a very long time to run (14-stable)

2023-10-27 Thread Guido Falsi
On 27/10/23 16:42, void wrote: On Fri, Oct 27, 2023 at 03:34:35PM +0200, Ronald Klop wrote: So if my observation is right it might be interesting to find out what is writing. would ktrace and/or truss be useful? something else? The truss -p output of the find PID produces massive amounts of

Re: periodic daily takes a very long time to run (14-stable)

2023-10-27 Thread Paul Mather
On Fri, 2023-10-27 at 15:42 +0100, void wrote: > would ktrace and/or truss be useful? something else? The truss -p > output of the > find PID produces massive amounts of output, all like this: > > fstatat(AT_FDCWD,"5e70d5f895ccc92af6a7d5226f818b-81464.o",{ mode=-rw- > r--r-- > ,inode=367004,size

Re: periodic daily takes a very long time to run (14-stable)

2023-10-27 Thread void
On Fri, Oct 27, 2023 at 03:34:35PM +0200, Ronald Klop wrote: What stands out to me is that you do quite a lot of writes on the disk. (I might be mistaken.) The max. number of IOPS for HDD is around 80 for consumer grade harddisks. I think this counts for USB connected disks. https://en.wikiped

Re: periodic daily takes a very long time to run (14-stable)

2023-10-27 Thread Ronald Klop
Van: void Datum: vrijdag, 27 oktober 2023 14:51 Aan: freebsd-sta...@freebsd.org Onderwerp: Re: periodic daily takes a very long time to run (14-stable) On Fri, Oct 27, 2023 at 01:45:24PM +0200, Ronald Klop wrote: >Can you run "gstat" or "iostat -x -d 1" to see how busy your disk is? >And how

Re: periodic daily takes a very long time to run (14-stable)

2023-10-27 Thread void
On Fri, Oct 27, 2023 at 02:46:39PM +0200, Ronald Klop wrote: Mmm. Your pool has a lot of space left. So that is good. About gstat / iostat, yes during the daily scan would be nice. The numbers outside of the daily scan can also help as a reference. NB: There were talks on the ML about vnode r

Re: periodic daily takes a very long time to run (14-stable)

2023-10-27 Thread void
On Fri, Oct 27, 2023 at 01:45:24PM +0200, Ronald Klop wrote: Can you run "gstat" or "iostat -x -d 1" to see how busy your disk is? And how much bandwidth is uses. when periodic is *not* running, gstat numbers fluctuate between whats indicated below and all zeros: dT: 1.011s w: 1.000s L(q)

Re: periodic daily takes a very long time to run (14-stable)

2023-10-27 Thread Ronald Klop
Van: void Datum: vrijdag, 27 oktober 2023 14:30 Aan: freebsd-sta...@freebsd.org Onderwerp: Re: periodic daily takes a very long time to run (14-stable) Hi, On Fri, Oct 27, 2023 at 01:45:24PM +0200, Ronald Klop wrote: >Can you run "gstat" or "iostat -x -d 1" to see how busy your disk is? >And

Re: periodic daily takes a very long time to run (14-stable)

2023-10-27 Thread void
Hi, On Fri, Oct 27, 2023 at 01:45:24PM +0200, Ronald Klop wrote: Can you run "gstat" or "iostat -x -d 1" to see how busy your disk is? And how much bandwidth is uses. The output of "zpool status", "zpool list" and "zfs list" can also be interesting. ZFS is known to become slow when the zpo

Re: periodic daily takes a very long time to run (14-stable)

2023-10-27 Thread Ronald Klop
Van: void Datum: vrijdag, 27 oktober 2023 12:15 Aan: freebsd-sta...@freebsd.org Onderwerp: periodic daily takes a very long time to run (14-stable) Hello list, I'm asking this in order to determine whether I've got something misconfigured or maybe my expectations need recalibrating, or maybe

periodic daily takes a very long time to run (14-stable)

2023-10-27 Thread void
Hello list, I'm asking this in order to determine whether I've got something misconfigured or maybe my expectations need recalibrating, or maybe both. context is rpi4b with 8GB and usb3-connected 1tb zfs hard disk. /etc/daily.local has been moved out of the way to try to fix the issue. When pe