[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0176 (Jingle ICE-UDP Transport Method)

2008-07-31 Thread XMPP Extensions Editor
Version 0.20 of XEP-0176 (Jingle ICE-UDP Transport Method) has been released. Abstract: This specification defines a Jingle transport method that results in sending media data using raw datagram sockets via the User Datagram Protocol (UDP). This transport method is negotiated via the Interactive

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0167 (Jingle RTP Sessions)

2008-07-31 Thread XMPP Extensions Editor
Version 0.23 of XEP-0167 (Jingle RTP Sessions) has been released. Abstract: This specification defines a Jingle application type for negotiating one or more sessions that use the Real-time Transport Protocol (RTP) to exchange media such as voice or video. The application type includes a straigh

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0166 (Jingle)

2008-07-31 Thread XMPP Extensions Editor
Version 0.29 of XEP-0166 (Jingle) has been released. Abstract: This specification defines an XMPP protocol extension for initiating and managing peer-to-peer media sessions between two XMPP entities in a way that is interoperable with existing Internet standards. The protocol provides a pluggab

Re: [Standards] presence priority -1 issues

2008-07-31 Thread Pavel Simerda
On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:47:25 +0100 Dave Cridland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu Jul 31 17:54:32 2008, Pedro Melo wrote: > > > > On Jul 31, 2008, at 5:21 PM, Dave Cridland wrote: > > > >> On Thu Jul 31 17:17:40 2008, Pedro Melo wrote: > Moving forward, this would allow clever clients to

Re: [Standards] XEP-0231 (Data Element) - local caching

2008-07-31 Thread Pavel Simerda
On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 08:07:04 -0600 Peter Saint-Andre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Pavel Simerda wrote: > > On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 07:04:16 -0600 > > Peter Saint-Andre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Pavel Simerda wrote: > >>> On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 19:49:01 -0600 > >>> Peter Saint-Andre <[EMAIL PRO

Re: [Standards] XEP-0154: User Profile - enterprise vs. simple

2008-07-31 Thread Pavel Simerda
Hello Peter, this is just reactions to your post, I will later summarize what I have and include some examples so we can advance from theory to something real. On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 08:23:36 -0600 Peter Saint-Andre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: (citation shortened) > > 2) The simpler case - user publ

Re: [Standards] rfc3920bis -06

2008-07-31 Thread Joe Hildebrand
On Jul 29, 2008, at 8:23 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: Dirk Meyer wrote: Only client but IIRC adding a friend to the roster resulted in getting an iq result without sending a get or set. Very confusing. So you sent and you received an IQ result from your server? That sounds like a server

Re: [Standards] presence priority -1 issues

2008-07-31 Thread Dave Cridland
On Thu Jul 31 17:54:32 2008, Pedro Melo wrote: On Jul 31, 2008, at 5:21 PM, Dave Cridland wrote: On Thu Jul 31 17:17:40 2008, Pedro Melo wrote: Moving forward, this would allow clever clients to observe that it wasn't a IM client capable of handling calendaring requests, but a dumb cal

Re: [Standards] xep-0077: account removal... and after?

2008-07-31 Thread Olivier Goffart
I'm about off topic here, but since you mention this spec i'd like to add my two cent. It would be cool to add a way to specify a new jid, so the server could reply with a error with the new Jid or even forward message to the new one. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed mess

Re: [Standards] Questions about xhtml-im

2008-07-31 Thread Olivier Goffart
Le mercredi 30 juillet 2008, Peter Saint-Andre a écrit : > Jehan wrote: > > Anyway for the part about semantic/structure versus style/display, > > probably there can be discussions about this (and you already had > > apparently), but even though I am completely partisan of structure, I > > understo

Re: [Standards] presence priority -1 issues

2008-07-31 Thread Pedro Melo
On Jul 31, 2008, at 5:21 PM, Dave Cridland wrote: On Thu Jul 31 17:17:40 2008, Pedro Melo wrote: Moving forward, this would allow clever clients to observe that it wasn't a IM client capable of handling calendaring requests, but a dumb calendaring bot working on behalf of the user. Not f

Re: [Standards] presence priority -1 issues

2008-07-31 Thread Pedro Melo
On Jul 31, 2008, at 5:21 PM, Dave Cridland wrote: On Thu Jul 31 17:17:40 2008, Pedro Melo wrote: Moving forward, this would allow clever clients to observe that it wasn't a IM client capable of handling calendaring requests, but a dumb calendaring bot working on behalf of the user. Not f

Re: [Standards] presence priority -1 issues

2008-07-31 Thread Dave Cridland
On Thu Jul 31 17:17:40 2008, Pedro Melo wrote: Moving forward, this would allow clever clients to observe that it wasn't a IM client capable of handling calendaring requests, but a dumb calendaring bot working on behalf of the user. Not following. Clients could have an integrated calenda

Re: [Standards] presence priority -1 issues

2008-07-31 Thread Pedro Melo
On Jul 30, 2008, at 8:40 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: Dave Cridland wrote: On Wed Jul 30 13:55:56 2008, Pedro Melo wrote: The most important part of -1 resources are their caps. For example, I can have a calendar app logged in with my own jid, accepting some namespace for calendar update

Re: [Standards] presence priority -1 issues

2008-07-31 Thread Pedro Melo
On Jul 30, 2008, at 7:25 PM, Dave Cridland wrote: On Wed Jul 30 13:55:56 2008, Pedro Melo wrote: The most important part of -1 resources are their caps. For example, I can have a calendar app logged in with my own jid, accepting some namespace for calendar updates or meeting requests. A

Re: [Standards] ICE/UDP and NAT

2008-07-31 Thread Sylvain Mundialco
My question was actual in the xep-0176 section 5.5 Connectivity Checks. The initiator and responder and behind NAT. We are not able to do get implementation right. The responder do not get the first request same as initiator ( illustrated by From 192.0.2.3:45665 to 192.0.2.1:3478 reaching

Re: [Standards] XEP-0154: User Profile - enterprise vs. simple

2008-07-31 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
Pavel Simerda wrote: Hello, I'm going to describe the issues we discussed in the jdev MUC room from my point of view. I'll also try to offer something new :). dwd pointed out many issues with enterprise-grade solutions and user profiles. stpeter suggested that these may also affect bigger publi

Re: [Standards] XEP-0231 (Data Element) - local caching

2008-07-31 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
Pavel Simerda wrote: On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 07:04:16 -0600 Peter Saint-Andre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Pavel Simerda wrote: On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 19:49:01 -0600 Peter Saint-Andre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ahoj Pavle! Pavel Simerda wrote: Hello, I have some suggestions for XEP-0231 (Data Elem

[Standards] XEP-0060 presence_based_delivery

2008-07-31 Thread Emil Hesslow
Hi, I'm writing my own pubsub component and what I want to do is just to push messages to people that are online. And when I look in XEP-0060 I found that there is a property called presence_based_delivery but I can't understand how it suppose to work. Right now I have to tell all subscribe