Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0256 (Last Activity in Presence)

2009-04-22 Thread Jiří Zárevúcký
2009/4/22 Dave Cridland : > > I'm entirely happy with it. But then again, I'm server-side, I don't have to > do anything. :-) > Not exactly. Server has to add the delay element to probe responses ;)

Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0256 (Last Activity in Presence)

2009-04-22 Thread Dave Cridland
On Wed Apr 22 21:55:10 2009, Jiří Zárevúcký wrote: Seems fine, but it looks to me more like a best practice then a standards track protocol... :) No, it needs a defined meaning to work between clients - it's standards-track work. I'm entirely happy with it. But then again, I'm server-side,

Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0256 (Last Activity in Presence)

2009-04-22 Thread Jiří Zárevúcký
Seems fine, but it looks to me more like a best practice then a standards track protocol... :)

Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0256 (Last Activity in Presence)

2009-04-22 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 4/22/09 2:45 PM, Marcus Lundblad wrote: > ons 2009-04-22 klockan 15:04 -0500 skrev XMPP Extensions Editor: >> This message constitutes notice of a Last Call for comments on >> XEP-0256 (Last Activity in Presence). >> >> Abstract: This specification

Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0256 (Last Activity in Presence)

2009-04-22 Thread Marcus Lundblad
ons 2009-04-22 klockan 15:04 -0500 skrev XMPP Extensions Editor: > This message constitutes notice of a Last Call for comments on XEP-0256 (Last > Activity in Presence). > > Abstract: This specification defines a way to use the Last Activity extension > in XMPP presence notifications. > > URL:

[Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0256 (Last Activity in Presence)

2009-04-22 Thread XMPP Extensions Editor
This message constitutes notice of a Last Call for comments on XEP-0256 (Last Activity in Presence). Abstract: This specification defines a way to use the Last Activity extension in XMPP presence notifications. URL: http://www.xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0256.html This Last Call begins today and s

[Standards] [Fwd: [Council] meeting minutes, 2009-04-22]

2009-04-22 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 FYI. - Original Message Subject: [Council] meeting minutes, 2009-04-22 Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 13:57:56 -0600 From: Peter Saint-Andre Reply-To: XMPP Council To: XMPP Council Results of the XMPP Council meeting held 2009-04-22...

[Standards] dialback, refactored

2009-04-22 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Philipp Hancke has been working to refactor XEP-0220 so that it is easier to read, more accurate, and closer to what's in RFC 3920 than to what is now in XEP-0220. In the XMPP Council meeting just now several participants indicated that they like the a

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0237 (Roster Versioning)

2009-04-22 Thread XMPP Extensions Editor
Version 0.9 of XEP-0237 (Roster Versioning) has been released. Abstract: This specification defines a proposed modification to the XMPP roster protocol that enables versioning of rosters such that the server will not send the roster to the client if the roster has not changed, thus saving bandwi

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0237 (Roster Versioning)

2009-04-22 Thread Leonid Evdokimov
Jiří Zárevúcký wrote: > All the user has to do is to delete clients cache, in case he notices > any inconsistency. Compared to the difficulty of solving such rare > cases on the protocol level, it is not so much problematic I guess. The only "easy" solution I see is to have separate "base" version

Re: [Standards] XEP-0145 (Annotations)

2009-04-22 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 4/22/09 8:55 AM, Yann Leboulanger wrote: > Hi, > > This XEP is maked as historical, why? Is it replaced by something else? > Shouldn't it be updated to use pubsub instead of XML storage? I think it is historical because of the dependency on XEP-00

Re: [Standards] XEP-0145 (Annotations)

2009-04-22 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 4/22/09 9:18 AM, Kevin Smith wrote: >>> This XEP is maked as historical, why? Is it replaced by something else? >>> Shouldn't it be updated to use pubsub instead of XML storage? > > Well, I think really we want the ability to hang arbitrary data of

Re: [Standards] XEP-0145 (Annotations)

2009-04-22 Thread Kevin Smith
>> This XEP is maked as historical, why? Is it replaced by something else? >> Shouldn't it be updated to use pubsub instead of XML storage? Well, I think really we want the ability to hang arbitrary data off roster items. At least, that's what I'd like :) /K

[Standards] XEP-0145 (Annotations)

2009-04-22 Thread Yann Leboulanger
Hi, This XEP is maked as historical, why? Is it replaced by something else? Shouldn't it be updated to use pubsub instead of XML storage? -- Yann

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0237 (Roster Versioning)

2009-04-22 Thread Jiří Zárevúcký
2009/4/22 Peter Saint-Andre : > > Done. Currently I have this in my working copy: > > *** > > 2.3 Server Response > > Whether or not the roster has changed since the version enumerated by > the client, the server MUST either return the complete roster as > described in RFC 3921 or return an empty I

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0237 (Roster Versioning)

2009-04-22 Thread Jiří Zárevúcký
2009/4/22 Peter Saint-Andre : > > If the client says it has roster version X and the server returns only a > few roster pushes, which are inconsistent with the roster version that > the human user sees in another client, then perhaps the user suspects > that there is something very wrong and calls