Re: [Standards] Addressing Security Concerns in XEP-0115 Entity Capabilities

2011-09-16 Thread Dave Cridland
On Fri Sep 16 21:15:43 2011, Florian Zeitz wrote: Hence a new protocol dropping the old one at the same will: a) Make old implementations send IQ queries to the new implementations. Number of IQs increases with the number of implementers of the new protocol for some time, but at a certain poin

Re: [Standards] Addressing Security Concerns in XEP-0115 Entity Capabilities

2011-09-16 Thread Florian Zeitz
I think I need some clarification here. I don't see why so many insist on fixing the current caps protocol. Caps is an optimization over regular disco. Ideally even dropping it altogether would not leave anything broken. There are by now XEPs which require caps, but most (all?) of them only requir

Re: [Standards] XEP-0198: Stream Management - Clarifications

2011-09-16 Thread Dave Cridland
On Fri Sep 16 17:58:17 2011, Kim Alvefur wrote: I think it shouldn't hurt if meant "I'd really like you to send an now, please", and the other party SHOULD reply with , but not MUST. No, that would be bad. I do not wish to second guess why I'm not getting an , I just want to get one.

Re: [Standards] XEP-0198: Stream Management - Clarifications

2011-09-16 Thread Matthew A. Miller
On Sep 16, 2011, at 10:58, Kim Alvefur wrote: > On Fri, 2011-09-16 at 10:33 -0600, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: >> On 8/29/11 11:35 AM, Stephen Hill wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> While reviewing XEP-0198 it was noticed an area in Section 4. Acks that >>> may need some more clarification. It states the

Re: [Standards] XEP-0198: Stream Management - Clarifications

2011-09-16 Thread Kim Alvefur
On Fri, 2011-09-16 at 10:33 -0600, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > On 8/29/11 11:35 AM, Stephen Hill wrote: > > Hello, > > > > While reviewing XEP-0198 it was noticed an area in Section 4. Acks that > > may need some more clarification. It states the following: > > > > "When an element ("request") i

Re: [Standards] XEP-0198: Stream Management - Clarifications

2011-09-16 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
On 8/29/11 11:35 AM, Stephen Hill wrote: > Hello, > > While reviewing XEP-0198 it was noticed an area in Section 4. Acks that > may need some more clarification. It states the following: > > "When an element ("request") is recieved, the recipient MUST > acknowledge it by sending an element to