Re: [Standards] PEP inconsistency with presence subscription

2011-10-20 Thread Sergey Dobrov
On 10/20/2011 03:56 AM, Dave Cridland wrote: On Wed Oct 19 19:27:01 2011, Sergey Dobrov wrote: The difference is that presence will be sent by server without client's participation. And it's good from the point of traffic economy view. As I can understand, the central target of entity

Re: [Standards] PEP inconsistency with presence subscription

2011-10-20 Thread Dave Cridland
On Thu Oct 20 09:19:06 2011, Sergey Dobrov wrote: On 10/20/2011 03:56 AM, Dave Cridland wrote: a) Probes are sent from the bare jid. b) Probes don't have an unavailable equivalent, needed to later remove the subscription. How this solved for regular presences? You get a later

Re: [Standards] PEP inconsistency with presence subscription

2011-10-20 Thread Sergey Dobrov
On 10/20/2011 03:43 PM, Dave Cridland wrote: On Thu Oct 20 09:19:06 2011, Sergey Dobrov wrote: On 10/20/2011 03:56 AM, Dave Cridland wrote: a) Probes are sent from the bare jid. b) Probes don't have an unavailable equivalent, needed to later remove the subscription. How this solved for

[Standards] fyi: Evented APIs www.eventedapi.org

2011-10-20 Thread =JeffH
just a headzup in case this is of interest.. Evented APIs http://www.eventedapi.org/ Overview Events indicate something has happened. In this they differ from the request-response interaction style popular on the Web. Event-based systems are declarative whereas request-response systems are

[Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: DMUC3: Distributed MUC

2011-10-20 Thread XMPP Extensions Editor
The XMPP Extensions Editor has received a proposal for a new XEP. Title: DMUC3: Distributed MUC Abstract: This document provides a protocol for reducing the bandwidth cost of local users contributing to a remote MUC over a constrained link through a local mirror of the MUC room. URL:

Re: [Standards] fyi: Evented APIs www.eventedapi.org

2011-10-20 Thread Matthew Wild
On 20 October 2011 17:43, =JeffH jeff.hod...@kingsmountain.com wrote: just a headzup in case this is of interest.. Why use HTTP instead of XMPP or some other notification protocol? There are several reasons:   1. HTTP is available everywhere online. Very few firewalls block port 80.   2.

Re: [Standards] fyi: Evented APIs www.eventedapi.org

2011-10-20 Thread Kim Alvefur
On Thu, 2011-10-20 at 23:46 +0100, Matthew Wild wrote: If email were just being invented today, it would use HTTP... I have no doubt. http://blog.mailgun.net/post/11622797058/mailgun-api-2-0-forget-mime Just wait for them to propose that as a standard for s2s delivery. -- Kim Alvefur