[Standards] Carbons - inbound messages to bare jid

2014-04-25 Thread Kim Alvefur
Hello, It has been brought up that my Carbons implementation does not follow the Receiving Messages to the Bare JID¹ section. This section says include carbons-enabled sessions in the normal forking of messages as described by XMPP IM². What I implemented was instead to send carbons-wrapped

Re: [Standards] Carbons - inbound messages to bare jid

2014-04-25 Thread Christian Schudt
Hi, Ive recently implemented XEP-280 for Openfire and have to say I like the bare JID behavior as it is. I dont see a reason to wrap the message in a forwarded extension for the bare JID case. Its easier for clients to use carbons, because they dont need to modify their message logic

Re: [Standards] Carbons - inbound messages to bare jid

2014-04-25 Thread Thijs Alkemade
On 25 apr. 2014, at 13:32, Kim Alvefur z...@zash.se wrote: Hello, It has been brought up that my Carbons implementation does not follow the Receiving Messages to the Bare JID¹ section. This section says include carbons-enabled sessions in the normal forking of messages as described by

Re: [Standards] Carbons - inbound messages to bare jid

2014-04-25 Thread Matthew Miller
Right; this is what we intended the semantics to be. I think the other proposal is not a good idea. - mm {mobile} On Apr 25, 2014 6:58 AM, Thijs Alkemade th...@xnyhps.nl wrote: On 25 apr. 2014, at 13:32, Kim Alvefur z...@zash.se wrote: Hello, It has been brought up that my Carbons

Re: [Standards] Carbons - inbound messages to bare jid

2014-04-25 Thread Holger Weiß
* Christian Schudt christian.sch...@gmx.de [2014-04-25 14:10]: I've recently implemented XEP-280 for Openfire and have to say I like the bare JID behavior as it is. I don't see a reason to wrap the message in a forwarded extension for the bare JID case. I'd prefer to omit this special

Re: [Standards] Carbons - inbound messages to bare jid

2014-04-25 Thread Holger Weiß
* Thijs Alkemade th...@xnyhps.nl [2014-04-25 14:57]: The semantics of receiving a carbon copy should be hey this other resource has a conversation going, here's a copy of this message in case you want to follow along. That might imply, for example, that the client uses a different way of

Re: [Standards] XEP-0138: security considerations

2014-04-25 Thread SM
Hi Peter, At 16:18 08-04-2014, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: Before we released the security note about application-layer compression last week [1] (which now seems to have been overshadowed by the heartbleed bug in OpenSSL), I started to work on some updates to XEP-0138. Here is my proposed text