Re: [Standards] MUC 2

2015-02-12 Thread Christian Schudt
Dave, maybe could you (or somebody else) elaborate on the shortcomings and the different demands of things like buddycloud you have discussed for those who didn't attend the summit. Also what's so bad about multiple parties chatting via a third party chat service (your 2nd use case)? For me

[Standards] MUC 2

2015-02-12 Thread Dave Cridland
At the summit, a bunch of us decided to have a serious effort at a redesign of multi user chat, to address shortcomings and emerging use cases. The overall model was a service domain which exposed, at bare jid level, a set of rooms, which acted more or less as pubsub services, with subsidiary

Re: [Standards] MUC 2

2015-02-12 Thread Dave Cridland
On 12 Feb 2015 14:00, Christian Schudt christian.sch...@gmx.de wrote: Dave, maybe could you (or somebody else) elaborate on the shortcomings and the different demands of things like buddycloud you have discussed for those who didn't attend the summit. Also what's so bad about multiple parties

Re: [Standards] MUC 2

2015-02-12 Thread Holger Weiß
* Christian Schudt christian.sch...@gmx.de [2015-02-12 14:59]: For me one shortcoming of XEP-0045 is that there's no good concept for the offline case of an occupant (member). That could be solved with MAM (XEP-0313), for what it's worth. Holger