Re: [Standards] XEP-184: Message Delivery Receipts - Message Type of Ack Messages

2015-04-13 Thread Florian Schmaus
On 11.04.2015 19:39, Florian Schmaus wrote: * Variant 1 The message type of an ack message MUST match the type of the message with the related receipt request, if it's of type 'groupchat'. It SHOULD match the type otherwise. A receiving entity MUST NOT make any assumptions about the message

Re: [Standards] XEP-184: Message Delivery Receipts - Message Type of Ack Messages

2015-04-13 Thread Florian Schmaus
On 13.04.2015 22:35, Christian Schudt wrote: Sounds good to me… except XEP-0045 still uses „MUST NOT“ for groupchat-type in private occupant-to-occupant messages. Might be inconsistent wording across the two specs. Furthermore I can understand the issue raised in your linked post [1]: In

Re: [Standards] XEP-184: Message Delivery Receipts - Message Type of Ack Messages

2015-04-13 Thread Christian Schudt
Sounds good to me… except XEP-0045 still uses „MUST NOT“ for groupchat-type in private occupant-to-occupant messages. Might be inconsistent wording across the two specs. Furthermore I can understand the issue raised in your linked post [1]: In software an empty String and a null reference

[Standards] Point request about BOSH support of XMPP server softwares

2015-04-13 Thread Ludovic BOCQUET
Dear all, We are in 2015, it will be nice to do a point about BOSH support of XMPP server softwares. The XEP-0124 is in 1.11 version since 2014-04-09 - 1 year. Link : https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0124.html With this point, we will inform dev teams to update it. Thanks in advance. Regards,

Re: [Standards] XEP-184: Message Delivery Receipts - Message Type of Ack Messages

2015-04-13 Thread Joe Hildebrand (jhildebr)
On 4/11/15, 1:36 PM, Christian Schudt christian.sch...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, I think Variant 1 violates XEP-0045: When receiving a „request“ message from an occupant in a MUC room (type=groupchat), the receiver would send a receipt to the sender directly, not to the MUC room, by simply sending it

Re: [Standards] XEP-184: Message Delivery Receipts - Message Type of Ack Messages

2015-04-13 Thread Georg Lukas
* Joe Hildebrand (jhildebr) jhild...@cisco.com [2015-04-13 17:39]: Headline also has the nice property that servers doing offline SHOULD NOT hold on to headlines; that seems to fit the intent here. Probably needs some testing in the real world. I see value in offline storing of ACKs, as it

Re: [Standards] Marking up messages with metadata and XEP-0071

2015-04-13 Thread Ben Langfeld
On 10 April 2015 at 13:01, Dave Cridland d...@cridland.net wrote: On 9 April 2015 at 23:24, Ben Langfeld b...@langfeld.me wrote: On 9 April 2015 at 16:58, Florian Schmaus f...@geekplace.eu wrote: On 09.04.2015 18:59, Ben Langfeld wrote: Florian, my concerns with your approach are twofold: