Re: [Standards] XEP-0198 minor enhancement

2015-06-03 Thread Florian Schmaus
On 03.06.2015 01:48, John Williams (johnwi3) wrote: Thanks for the clarification. Hum,.. not sure how useful this is, since a lot of stanzas are of little long term interest (eg: chatstates), but as you describe it seems pretty harmless. Consider the XMPP user walks into the subway without

Re: [Standards] XEP-0198 minor enhancement

2015-06-03 Thread Dave Cridland
On 3 June 2015 at 00:48, John Williams (johnwi3) john...@cisco.com wrote: Thanks for the clarification. Hum,.. not sure how useful this is, since a lot of stanzas are of little long term interest (eg: chatstates), but as you describe it seems pretty harmless. So as things stand, if a TCP

Re: [Standards] XEP-0198 minor enhancement

2015-06-03 Thread Kevin Smith
On 29 May 2015, at 21:00, Dave Cridland d...@cridland.net wrote: What if, on a resumption failure, a server could include the 'h' attribute, to mean I can't actually resume your state, but I did get all the stanzas up until H. I think this allows servers to hold onto this small amount of

[Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Nonzas (are not Stanzas)

2015-06-03 Thread XMPP Extensions Editor
The XMPP Extensions Editor has received a proposal for a new XEP. Title: Nonzas (are not Stanzas) Abstract: This specification defines the term Nonza, describing every top level stream element that is not a Stanza. URL: http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/nonza.html The XMPP Council will decide

[Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Unique and stable message IDs

2015-06-03 Thread XMPP Extensions Editor
The XMPP Extensions Editor has received a proposal for a new XEP. Title: Unique and stable message IDs Abstract: This specification describes unique and stable IDs for message stanzas. URL: http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/mid.html The XMPP Council will decide in the next two weeks whether to

Re: [Standards] XEP-0198 minor enhancement

2015-06-03 Thread John Williams (johnwi3)
Thanks Florian Dave, I made a major misunderstanding, and this now makes good sense. I was thinking the 'h' value in the failed stanza was the servers count of stanzas received by the session for delivery **to** the client. That is to say a resume using that value would require