Re: [Standards] MUC2 - The case for removing semi-anonymous

2015-06-26 Thread Steve Kille
I would like us to Get This Right, though. People have been mumbling about replacing MUC for years, and I’ve always been resistant; the discussions at the summit this year persuaded me that we finally have requirements that MUC1 can’t easily meet, but I really do not want us to do MUC2

Re: [Standards] guest access

2015-06-26 Thread Kevin Smith
On 26 Jun 2015, at 00:51, Peter Saint-Andre - yet pe...@andyet.net wrote: Lance Stout and I had a conversation the other day about what we call guest access to an XMPP application. As example, consider a chat service (text, video, what have you) that has registered users and the ability for

Re: [Standards] guest access

2015-06-26 Thread Peter Saint-Andre - yet
On 6/26/15 5:26 AM, Matthew Wild wrote: On 26 June 2015 at 00:51, Peter Saint-Andre - yet pe...@andyet.net wrote: Lance Stout and I had a conversation the other day about what we call guest access to an XMPP application. As example, consider a chat service (text, video, what have you) that has

Re: [Standards] guest access

2015-06-26 Thread Peter Saint-Andre - yet
On 6/26/15 5:57 AM, Dave Cridland wrote: On 26 June 2015 at 00:51, Peter Saint-Andre - yet pe...@andyet.net mailto:pe...@andyet.net wrote: Lance Stout and I had a conversation the other day about what we call guest access to an XMPP application. As example, consider a chat service

Re: [Standards] guest access

2015-06-26 Thread Kim Alvefur
fre jun 26 16:45:56 2015 GMT+0200 skrev Peter Saint-Andre - yet: Sure, you need to do the SRV two-step. I'm not sure I understand completely, then. Are you proposing that the target of the SRV record is the XMPP host (and thus ignore the port?)? I'm not sure I understand completely

Re: [Standards] guest access

2015-06-26 Thread Dave Cridland
On 26 June 2015 at 13:40, Peter Saint-Andre - yet pe...@andyet.net wrote: On 6/26/15 5:57 AM, Dave Cridland wrote: On 26 June 2015 at 00:51, Peter Saint-Andre - yet pe...@andyet.net mailto:pe...@andyet.net wrote: Lance Stout and I had a conversation the other day about what we

Re: [Standards] guest access

2015-06-26 Thread Peter Saint-Andre - yet
On 6/26/15 6:46 AM, Matthew Wild wrote: On 26 June 2015 at 13:38, Peter Saint-Andre - yet pe...@andyet.net wrote: On 6/26/15 5:26 AM, Matthew Wild wrote: On 26 June 2015 at 00:51, Peter Saint-Andre - yet pe...@andyet.net wrote: Thus we need a way for a client to discover where it can

Re: [Standards] guest access

2015-06-26 Thread Matthew Wild
On 26 June 2015 at 15:45, Peter Saint-Andre - yet pe...@andyet.net wrote: On 6/26/15 6:46 AM, Matthew Wild wrote: On 26 June 2015 at 13:38, Peter Saint-Andre - yet pe...@andyet.net wrote: On 6/26/15 5:26 AM, Matthew Wild wrote: I'm not sure I understand completely, then. Are you proposing

Re: [Standards] MUC2 - The case for removing semi-anonymous

2015-06-26 Thread Dave Cridland
On 26 Jun 2015 07:24, Steve Kille steve.ki...@isode.com wrote: I would like us to Get This Right, though. People have been mumbling about replacing MUC for years, and I’ve always been resistant; the discussions at the summit this year persuaded me that we finally have requirements that MUC1

Re: [Standards] guest access

2015-06-26 Thread Matthew Wild
On 26 June 2015 at 00:51, Peter Saint-Andre - yet pe...@andyet.net wrote: Lance Stout and I had a conversation the other day about what we call guest access to an XMPP application. As example, consider a chat service (text, video, what have you) that has registered users and the ability for

Re: [Standards] guest access

2015-06-26 Thread Dave Cridland
On 26 June 2015 at 00:51, Peter Saint-Andre - yet pe...@andyet.net wrote: Lance Stout and I had a conversation the other day about what we call guest access to an XMPP application. As example, consider a chat service (text, video, what have you) that has registered users and the ability for

Re: [Standards] guest access

2015-06-26 Thread Matthew Wild
On 26 June 2015 at 13:38, Peter Saint-Andre - yet pe...@andyet.net wrote: On 6/26/15 5:26 AM, Matthew Wild wrote: On 26 June 2015 at 00:51, Peter Saint-Andre - yet pe...@andyet.net wrote: Thus we need a way for a client to discover where it can authenticate as an ad-hoc or guest user. We