[Standards] Council minutes for 2017-08-09

2017-08-09 Thread Dave Cridland
Present: Daniel, Dave, Sam, Tobias, and Emmanuel. 1) Roll Call All present, though Emmanuel was a little late. 2) Minute Taker Yours Truly. 3) Voting on suggesting the Board to add Jonas to the Editor Team. (As an aside, as discussed just prior to the meeting, the Council makes recommendation

Re: [Standards] XEP-0334 Message Processing Hints (Was: [Council] Council Meeting Minutes April 5th 2017)

2017-08-09 Thread Sam Whited
On Wed, Aug 9, 2017, at 06:47, Georg Lukas wrote: > With the above points considered, Hints would be reduced to a single > "no-archive" or "transient" hint, making it a rather thin XEP. That seems reasonable to me if this is the extent of the problem. Alternatively, do we not have a more general "

Re: [Standards] XEP-0334 Message Processing Hints (Was: [Council] Council Meeting Minutes April 5th 2017)

2017-08-09 Thread Daniel Gultsch
2017-08-09 13:47 GMT+02:00 Georg Lukas : > We have no consensus yet on how to handle "push urgency" - not every > message that is "persistent" also requires immediate delivery to the > client. Just as an FYI. Some people in the 'push community' (especially iOS people) are considering leaving that

Re: [Standards] XEP-0334 Message Processing Hints (Was: [Council] Council Meeting Minutes April 5th 2017)

2017-08-09 Thread Georg Lukas
Just a small summary / follow-up from todays xsf@ discussion. * Georg Lukas [2017-07-13 21:56]: > Maybe OTR and MUC-PMs are the only pathological cases here. Then you are > right and we don't even need / . Daniel's point that OTR and MUC-PMs are a legacy exception and that the default rule shou