Re: [Standards] XEP-0333: Chat Markers overhaul

On Donnerstag, 16. November 2017 22:11:50 CET Philipp Hörist wrote: > 2017-11-16 21:40 GMT+01:00 Jonas Wielicki : > > Doesn’t it make more sense to require that senders who mark messages as > > markable MUST use at least N bits of entropy (where N is the number of > > bits of > > entropy in UUID4,

Re: [Standards] XEP-0333: Chat Markers overhaul

On 16 November 2017 at 19:39, Daniel Gultsch wrote: > 2017-11-16 20:34 GMT+01:00 Dave Cridland : >> On 16 November 2017 at 19:22, Daniel Gultsch wrote: >>> * Add a sender attribute to and that MUST >>> contain the full JID of the person who requested the marker in group >>> chats. > > Assuming

Re: [Standards] XEP-0333: Chat Markers overhaul

2017-11-16 21:40 GMT+01:00 Jonas Wielicki : > > Doesn’t it make more sense to require that senders who mark messages as > markable MUST use at least N bits of entropy (where N is the number of > bits of > entropy in UUID4, since people seem to like that) in the message IDs, > stanza > IDs and orig

Re: [Standards] XEP-0333: Chat Markers overhaul

On Donnerstag, 16. November 2017 20:22:58 CET Daniel Gultsch wrote: > * Add a sender attribute to and that MUST > contain the full JID of the person who requested the marker in group > chats. Doesn’t it make more sense to require that senders who mark messages as markable MUST use at least N bi

Re: [Standards] XEP-0333: Chat Markers overhaul

* Note that if the markable message has an origin-id this id should be used over the stanza id. should -> MUST everything else seems good to me. philipp 2017-11-16 20:39 GMT+01:00 Daniel Gultsch : > 2017-11-16 20:34 GMT+01:00 Dave Cridland : > > On 16 November 2017 at 19:22, Daniel Gultsch wr

Re: [Standards] XEP-0333: Chat Markers overhaul

2017-11-16 20:34 GMT+01:00 Dave Cridland : > On 16 November 2017 at 19:22, Daniel Gultsch wrote: >> * Add a sender attribute to and that MUST >> contain the full JID of the person who requested the marker in group >> chats. Assuming that stanza ids are unique per person (client) but not necessa

Re: [Standards] XEP-0333: Chat Markers overhaul

On 16 November 2017 at 19:22, Daniel Gultsch wrote: > * Add a sender attribute to and that MUST > contain the full JID of the person who requested the marker in group > chats. This doesn't make sense to me, which is probably my fault - could you expand on this? Dave. __

[Standards] XEP-0333: Chat Markers overhaul

Hi, I'm planning to make some changes to XEP-0333 tomorrow but before I do I want to very quickly run this by you to see if anyone has very strong objections towards any of the following changes. * Get rid of * Get rid of discovery * Add a sender attribute to and that MUST contain the full JID

Re: [Standards] XEP-0136: Message Archiving moved to Deprecated

Thu, 16 Nov 2017 11:50:55 +0300 Kozlov Konstantin wrote: > It's a nice idea to recommend experimental XEP's. I agree with your irony, but this is the case where formal rules don't work as planned. ___ Standards mailing list Info: https://mail.jabber.or

Re: [Standards] XEP-0136: Message Archiving moved to Deprecated

It's a nice idea to recommend experimental XEP's.16.11.2017, 11:45, "Evgeny Khramtsov" :Thu, 16 Nov 2017 11:42:58 +0300Kozlov Konstantin wrote: Bad thing is that developers of new clents don't know which XEP to implement. XEP-0136 (which is deprecated) or XEP-0313 (which is still

Re: [Standards] XEP-0136: Message Archiving moved to Deprecated

Thu, 16 Nov 2017 11:42:58 +0300 Kozlov Konstantin wrote: > Bad thing is that developers of new clents don't know which XEP to > implement. XEP-0136 (which is deprecated) or XEP-0313 (which is still > experimental and may be deferred, retracted and so on). MAM is recommended by the compliance sui

Re: [Standards] XEP-0136: Message Archiving moved to Deprecated

Bad thing is that developers of new clents don't know which XEP to implement.XEP-0136 (which is deprecated) or XEP-0313 (which is still experimental and may be deferred, retracted and so on).16.11.2017, 11:12, "Dave Cridland" :On 16 Nov 2017 7:43 am, "Kozlov Konstantin" wrote:Too

Re: [Standards] XEP-0136: Message Archiving moved to Deprecated

On 16 Nov 2017 7:43 am, "Kozlov Konstantin" wrote: Too bad... XEP-0313 is still experimental and XEP-0136 is deprecated already. No, it's a good thing. While MAM isn't quite Draft yet, the council was confident it will be very soon, and is clearly what we want new implementations to be doing.