Re: [Standards] NEW: XEP-0397 (Instant Stream Resumption)

2018-01-22 Thread Dave Cridland
On 22 January 2018 at 14:13, Evgeny Khramtsov wrote: > Mon, 22 Jan 2018 13:42:59 + > Dave Cridland wrote: > >> I don't think RTTs should block UI either, but startup RTTs mean we >> cannot send or receive messages for several RTTs, and that's a very >> real problem over slower networks. > > W

Re: [Standards] NEW: XEP-0397 (Instant Stream Resumption)

2018-01-22 Thread Thilo Molitor
I think I should give you a real example where ISR really matters: Under iOS you can not run your app in the background and keep it permanently connected. And push doesn't always wake up your app in the background (there are *some* circumstances which allow this but much more exceptions). So: I

Re: [Standards] NEW: XEP-0397 (Instant Stream Resumption)

2018-01-22 Thread Evgeny Khramtsov
Mon, 22 Jan 2018 13:42:59 + Dave Cridland wrote: > I don't think RTTs should block UI either, but startup RTTs mean we > cannot send or receive messages for several RTTs, and that's a very > real problem over slower networks. What problem? If you're on slow network, expect everything to be s

Re: [Standards] NEW: XEP-0397 (Instant Stream Resumption)

2018-01-22 Thread Dave Cridland
On 22 January 2018 at 13:26, Evgeny Khramtsov wrote: > Mon, 22 Jan 2018 11:16:40 - > Jonas Wielicki (XSF Editor) wrote: > >> Version 0.1.0 of XEP-0397 (Instant Stream Resumption) has been >> released. > > Previous discussion has faded away, so I will be ranting here again: I > don't see exces

Re: [Standards] NEW: XEP-0397 (Instant Stream Resumption)

2018-01-22 Thread Evgeny Khramtsov
Mon, 22 Jan 2018 11:16:40 - Jonas Wielicki (XSF Editor) wrote: > Version 0.1.0 of XEP-0397 (Instant Stream Resumption) has been > released. Previous discussion has faded away, so I will be ranting here again: I don't see excessive RTT as a problem. I'm not convinced that excessive RTTs block

Re: [Standards] NEW: XEP-0397 (Instant Stream Resumption)

2018-01-22 Thread Dave Cridland
On 22 January 2018 at 11:16, Jonas Wielicki wrote: > URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0397.html So now this is published, I think I can list my (current) blockers for advancing it, as well as more general improvements that I think ought to be made, and suggestions for unblocking. The essenti

[Standards] NEW: XEP-0397 (Instant Stream Resumption)

2018-01-22 Thread XSF Editor
Version 0.1.0 of XEP-0397 (Instant Stream Resumption) has been released. Abstract: This specification introduces a mechanism for instant stream resumption, based on Stream Management (XEP-0198), allowing XMPP entities to instantaneously resume an XMPP stream. Changelog: Accepted by council vote f

Re: [Standards] Instant Stream Resumption 0.0.5 ProtoXEP

2018-01-22 Thread Florian Schmaus
On 22.01.2018 09:57, Dave Cridland wrote: > On 19 January 2018 at 18:00, Florian Schmaus wrote: >> On 30.11.2017 21:10, Florian Schmaus wrote: >>> I also like to ask Council to consider this ProtoXEP for acceptance. >> It's been 7 weeks. What is the status of this? > > According yo the XMPP Counc

[Standards] XMPP Council Spreadsheet of Unofficial Doom

2018-01-22 Thread Dave Cridland
Folks, For my personal benefit, I'm tracking voting on a Google spreadsheet here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1AZ-Sna6OiRG--b-mJMKv3XXfrn3Nehm0kAtlyJvImL0/edit#gid=0 This is a public spreadsheet so you don't need a Google account to read it. I don't claim any accuracy, but I'll be na

Re: [Standards] Instant Stream Resumption 0.0.5 ProtoXEP

2018-01-22 Thread Dave Cridland
On 19 January 2018 at 18:00, Florian Schmaus wrote: > On 30.11.2017 21:10, Florian Schmaus wrote: >> I also like to ask Council to consider this ProtoXEP for acceptance. > > It's been 7 weeks. What the status of this? According yo the XMPP Council Spreadsheet Of Unofficial Doom, that was voted on

Re: [Standards] Call for new compliance suites author

2018-01-22 Thread Jonas Wielicki
On Freitag, 19. Januar 2018 11:31:49 CET Sam Whited wrote: > If that sounds like you, please reach out and I'd be happy to help you get > started picking back up where I left off. I’ll be happy to take over the '18 suites for the sake of getting them published this week. I don’t know what the co