On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 07:55:52PM +0200, Paul Schaub wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I get what you want to achieve, but I think it would be easier to define
> disappearing messages for general XMPP (not only OMEMO).
>
> As already stated, you cannot trust devices that announce support, to
> actually delete me
Hi!
I get what you want to achieve, but I think it would be easier to define
disappearing messages for general XMPP (not only OMEMO).
As already stated, you cannot trust devices that announce support, to
actually delete messages after the timer expired. Lets assume you do
trust all involved devic
Pretty much all goals are achieved by both parties using app that
automatically deletes all encrypted messages after a set period of time.
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On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 04:32:13PM +0200, Jonas Wielicki wrote:
> On Samstag, 12. Mai 2018 15:31:41 CEST Alexander Krotov wrote:
> > On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 10:45:49AM +0200, Florian Schmaus wrote:
> > > On 12.05.2018 10:14, Alexander Krotov wrote:
> > > > On Fri, May 11, 2018 at 10:24:35AM +0200,
On Samstag, 12. Mai 2018 15:31:41 CEST Alexander Krotov wrote:
> On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 10:45:49AM +0200, Florian Schmaus wrote:
> > On 12.05.2018 10:14, Alexander Krotov wrote:
> > > On Fri, May 11, 2018 at 10:24:35AM +0200, W. Martin Borgert wrote:
> > >> Quoting Alexander Krotov :
> > >> Theref
On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 10:45:49AM +0200, Florian Schmaus wrote:
> On 12.05.2018 10:14, Alexander Krotov wrote:
> > On Fri, May 11, 2018 at 10:24:35AM +0200, W. Martin Borgert wrote:
> >> Quoting Alexander Krotov :
> >> Therefore it is orthogonal to any encryption and it does also not
> >> matter,
On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 01:36:45PM +0500, Ненахов Андрей wrote:
> сб, 12 мая 2018 г., 13:16 Alexander Krotov :
>
> > I want to be able to advertise to my contacts which of my devices
> > support timers, so devices that don't support them are not able to
> > decrypt the message.
>
>
> What a funn
On 12.05.2018 10:14, Alexander Krotov wrote:
> On Fri, May 11, 2018 at 10:24:35AM +0200, W. Martin Borgert wrote:
>> Quoting Alexander Krotov :
>> Therefore it is orthogonal to any encryption and it does also not
>> matter, whether your peer or one of your peers devices or resources
>> does impleme
сб, 12 мая 2018 г., 13:16 Alexander Krotov :
> I want to be able to advertise to my contacts which of my devices
> support timers, so devices that don't support them are not able to
> decrypt the message.
What a funny wish. To prove futility of it, if we ever implement
'advertising timers suppor
On Fri, May 11, 2018 at 10:24:35AM +0200, W. Martin Borgert wrote:
> Quoting Alexander Krotov :
> > Disappearing messages without end-to-end encryption and forward
> > secrecy are useless at best. They give the user false sense of
> > security. That is why Telegram implements timers for "secret" ch
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