[Standards] The Nasal Demons of MUC Avatars (XEP-0045 + XEP-0153 = Null Pointer Exception)

2018-05-14 Thread Georg Lukas
Hi, a recent upgrade of some large ejabberd deployment made yaxim crash with a Null Pointer Exception when opening the participant list of a MUC. Further analysis has shown that the misbehavior is caused by the legacy XMPP library I'm using interpreting the following stanza as a participant

[Standards] Fwd: [new-work] WG Review: Messaging Layer Security (mls)

2018-05-14 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
Hi all, Please take a look at the charter for this proposed IETF working group and consider getting involved! The XMPP community's experience with end-to-end encryption is extremely relevant here. Peter Forwarded Message Subject: [new-work] WG Review: Messaging Layer Security

Re: [Standards] Maintaining a list of ongoing conversations

2018-05-14 Thread Ненахов Андрей
> OK, is it based on PEP? No. > Why do you store message counters instead of the MAM ID of the last read message or a last read date? We store both. Counters are good to display number of read messages when you didn't load all the archive on that particular device. Like you missed a couple of

Re: [Standards] Thoughts on MIX adoption (and will MIX ever happen?)

2018-05-14 Thread Goffi
Le jeudi 10 mai 2018, 10:36:17 CEST Steve Kille a écrit : > Having made the latest round of MIX edits, I felt it was time to share > some thoughts on MIX. > > It has been a number of years since work was started on MIX, and > implementations are thin on the ground. It seems sensible consider

Re: [Standards] Maintaining a list of ongoing conversations

2018-05-14 Thread JC Brand
Am 14. Mai 2018 12:40:31 MESZ schrieb "Ненахов Андрей" : >We are working on extension that we call by provisional name >'conversation >metadata' which is basically a list of all conversations with unread >messages counters and read/delivered markers. I believe

Re: [Standards] Maintaining a list of ongoing conversations

2018-05-14 Thread Michal Piotrowski
Hi JC, This the topic I raised during last XMPP Summit in Brussels. I though I could create a protXEP about this, but I was too busy with commercial assignments. In MongooseIM we have such "inbox" almost implemented and delivered to one of our customers. The code which will soon be merged with

Re: [Standards] Maintaining a list of ongoing conversations

2018-05-14 Thread Jonas Wielicki
On Montag, 14. Mai 2018 12:28:17 CEST JC Brand wrote: > I'm interested in finding a way to keep track of ongoing conversations and > whether any new messages were added to them since the user was last online. > > I think this is the so-called "Inbox" feature that was brought up at the > 2018

Re: [Standards] Maintaining a list of ongoing conversations

2018-05-14 Thread Ненахов Андрей
We are working on extension that we call by provisional name 'conversation metadata' which is basically a list of all conversations with unread messages counters and read/delivered markers. I believe that should provide functionality that does what you intend to. -- Ненахов Андрей Директор ООО

Re: [Standards] Maintaining a list of ongoing conversations

2018-05-14 Thread Kevin Smith
On 14 May 2018, at 11:28, JC Brand wrote: > > Hi folks > > I'm interested in finding a way to keep track of ongoing conversations and > whether any new messages were added to them since the user was last online. > > I think this is the so-called "Inbox" feature that was

[Standards] Maintaining a list of ongoing conversations

2018-05-14 Thread JC Brand
Hi folks I'm interested in finding a way to keep track of ongoing conversations and whether any new messages were added to them since the user was last online. I think this is the so-called "Inbox" feature that was brought up at the 2018 summit. At the summit the suggested approach was a