Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0313 (Message Archive Management)

2021-09-07 Thread Holger Weiß
* Georg Lukas [2021-09-07 17:22]: Furthermore, I'm not sure if messages received by a client from offline history are supposed to contain the respective MAM-ID, so deduplicating here might be very adventurous, as the same message might arrive from offline history without a MAM ID and from MAM

Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0313 (Message Archive Management)

2021-09-07 Thread Kevin Smith
On 7 Sep 2021, at 16:22, Georg Lukas wrote: >> §6.1.1: the business rules for user archives are inadequate: >> >> MUC messages in user archive: I think that implementation practice has >> clearly shown that storing MUC messages in the user archive is a Bad >> Idea, and nobody is doing it anyway.

Re: [Standards] Stable is the new Draft

2021-09-07 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
On 8/31/21 9:41 AM, Jonas Schäfer wrote: > The term "Draft" for our non-Final but also non-Experimental standards has > been adopted from our "mother" organization, the Internet Engineering Task > Force. The IETF has since abandoned that term. In fact, the IETF moved from a three-stage track to

Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0313 (Message Archive Management)

2021-09-07 Thread Georg Lukas
Hello everyone, given that XEP-0313 is up for recall in tomorrow's Council meeting, I'd like to sort my long list of issues into blocking and non-blocking. Fixing the blocking ones is a requirement for me to change my vote to something different than -1. Two blocking (non-Editorial) issues: * Ge

[Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0459 (XMPP Compliance Suites 2022)

2021-09-07 Thread XSF Editor
This message constitutes notice of a Last Call for comments on XEP-0459. Title: XMPP Compliance Suites 2022 Abstract: This document defines XMPP application categories for different use cases (Core, Web, IM, and Mobile), and specifies the required XEPs that client and server software needs to impl

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0060 (Publish-Subscribe)

2021-09-07 Thread XSF Editor
Version 1.22.0 of XEP-0060 (Publish-Subscribe) has been released. Abstract: This specification defines an XMPP protocol extension for generic publish-subscribe functionality. The protocol enables XMPP entities to create nodes (topics) at a pubsub service and publish information at those nodes; an

[Standards] XMPP Council Agenda 2021-09-08

2021-09-07 Thread Jonas Schäfer
Hi everyone, The next XMPP Council Meeting will take place on 2021-09-08 at 15:00Z in xmpp:coun...@muc.xmpp.org?join. Everyone is welcome to join and add to the discussions. This agenda is composed from: - Editor notifications to standards@ - xsf/xeps GitHub PRs marked as Needs Council - xsf/x