Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0231 (Bits of Binary)

2008-08-14 Thread Pavel Simerda
On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 15:40:14 +0200 "Zenon Kuder jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi again, I came up with some more comments :-) > > From introductory text of section 2.1: > "[...] If the data is not cached, the recipient would then retrieve > the data by sending an IQ-get to the sender (or pote

Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0231 (Bits of Binary)

2008-08-14 Thread Pavel Simerda
y/019390.html > 30 of July 2008 03:49:01 Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > >Pavel Simerda wrote: > >> I further propose we add some informational section about > >> generation of CIDs. Although it's specified elsewhere, I believe > >> this XEP will be very us

Re: [Standards] XEP-0045: requesting a unique room name

2008-08-13 Thread Pavel Simerda
Hello, maybe you could use a hash function (or unique identifier) that has lower probability of random conflicts than the probability of random RAM errors :). Just joking, with computers, you can be never sure, so "almost sure" is usually good enough if it's just a matter of trying it again. (Bt

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Direct MUC Invitations

2008-08-13 Thread Pavel Simerda
On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 08:18:43 -0500 XMPP Extensions Editor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/direct-invitations.html Hmm, good idea, this simple direct invitation protocol, it makes sense to send invitation to the people I invite. Just a sidenote, couldn't "venue"

Re: [Standards] comments on section 8.3, draft-saintandre-rfc3920bis-06.html

2008-08-12 Thread Pavel Simerda
On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 00:31:00 -0700 Justin Karneges <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Monday 11 August 2008 14:04:22 Pavel Simerda wrote: > > On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 13:45:08 -0600 > > > > Peter Saint-Andre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Server DOM grovel

Re: [Standards] comments on section 8.3, draft-saintandre-rfc3920bis-06.html

2008-08-11 Thread Pavel Simerda
On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 13:45:08 -0600 Peter Saint-Andre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Justin Karneges wrote: > > On Tuesday 05 August 2008 08:54:22 Pavel Simerda wrote: > >> On Mon, 04 Aug 2008 16:59:50 -0600 > >> > >> Peter Saint-Andre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]&

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0231 (Bits of Binary)

2008-08-08 Thread Pavel Simerda
On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 08:36:12 -0600 Peter Saint-Andre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Pavel Simerda wrote: > > >> URL: http://www.xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0231.html > > > > That's it :). > > Super. So now I think we need to issue a second Last Call on

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0231 (Bits of Binary)

2008-08-08 Thread Pavel Simerda
On Thu, 07 Aug 2008 20:39:19 -0500 XMPP Extensions Editor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Version 0.8 of XEP-0231 (Bits of Binary) has been released. > > Abstract: This specification defines an XMPP protocol extension for > including or referring to small bits of binary data in an XML stanza. > > C

Re: [Standards] About the messaging use-case of XEP-0231

2008-08-07 Thread Pavel Simerda
On Thu, 07 Aug 2008 14:52:23 -0600 Peter Saint-Andre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Pavel Simerda wrote: > > On Thu, 07 Aug 2008 10:15:16 -0600 > > Peter Saint-Andre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Pavel Simerda wrote: > >>> On Thu, 7

Re: [Standards] About the messaging use-case of XEP-0231

2008-08-07 Thread Pavel Simerda
On Thu, 07 Aug 2008 10:15:16 -0600 Peter Saint-Andre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Pavel Simerda wrote: > > On Thu, 7 Aug 2008 14:29:32 +0200 (CEST) > > "Marcus Lundblad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Hi. > >> > >> I s

Re: [Standards] About the messaging use-case of XEP-0231

2008-08-07 Thread Pavel Simerda
On Thu, 7 Aug 2008 14:29:32 +0200 (CEST) "Marcus Lundblad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi. > > I saw that the use-cases of XEP-0231 has been removed along with the > service discovery features. I believe we just lost the service discovery on the way. But it will be the same case as with XHTML-I

Re: [Standards] XEP-0071 v. 1.4pre1

2008-08-07 Thread Pavel Simerda
None forbids their implementation, but do you think every client should implement them? Pavel On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 18:18:19 -0600 Joe Hildebrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Implementation experience has shown that and friends is > strongly demanded by users, mostly because of copy/paste from >

Re: [Standards] XEP-0154: User Profile - enterprise vs. simple

2008-08-06 Thread Pavel Simerda
On Mon, 04 Aug 2008 19:50:01 -0600 Peter Saint-Andre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Pavel Simerda wrote: > > Hello Peter, > > > > this is just reactions to your post, I will later summarize what I > > have and include some examples so we can advance from theory t

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0231 (Data Element)

2008-08-06 Thread Pavel Simerda
On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 23:28:16 -0500 XMPP Extensions Editor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Version 0.4 of XEP-0231 (Data Element) has been released. > > Abstract: This specification defines an XMPP protocol extension for > including small bits of binary data in an XML stanza. > > Changelog: Generali

Re: [Standards] presence priority -1 issues

2008-08-05 Thread Pavel Simerda
On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 09:16:45 -0600 Peter Saint-Andre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Maciek Niedzielski wrote: > > Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > >>> I like the part that only client/* should be interpreted as > >>> IM-capable resources, but I don't know if that is too strict. > >> > >> That's probably

Re: [Standards] comments on section 8.3, draft-saintandre-rfc3920bis-06.html

2008-08-05 Thread Pavel Simerda
On Mon, 04 Aug 2008 16:59:50 -0600 Peter Saint-Andre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Pedro Melo wrote: > > > > On Jul 22, 2008, at 2:12 AM, Ovidiu Craciun wrote: > > > >> > >> Excerpt from: > >> http://www.xmpp.org/internet-drafts/draft-saintandre-rfc3920bis-06.html > >> > >> "Section: 8.3. Gener

Re: [Standards] Questions about xhtml-im

2008-08-02 Thread Pavel Simerda
On Sat, 02 Aug 2008 21:40:49 +0200 Maciek Niedzielski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jehan wrote: > > But still for most end users, the best is wysiwyg > > And this is why xhtml-im needs to be about formatting, not semantics: > most end users want to get (and send) what they see. And they want > y

Re: [Standards] Questions about xhtml-im

2008-08-01 Thread Pavel Simerda
On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 12:49:05 +0200 Jehan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Olivier Goffart;2116 Wrote: > > L > > It could also make use of a WIKI-like syntax > > > > Yes for my own, if really we are interested on client side text > structuration, the wiki style is one of the best approach for > te

Re: [Standards] presence priority -1 issues

2008-07-31 Thread Pavel Simerda
On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:47:25 +0100 Dave Cridland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu Jul 31 17:54:32 2008, Pedro Melo wrote: > > > > On Jul 31, 2008, at 5:21 PM, Dave Cridland wrote: > > > >> On Thu Jul 31 17:17:40 2008, Pedro Melo wrote: > Moving forward, this would allow clever clients to

Re: [Standards] XEP-0231 (Data Element) - local caching

2008-07-31 Thread Pavel Simerda
On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 08:07:04 -0600 Peter Saint-Andre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Pavel Simerda wrote: > > On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 07:04:16 -0600 > > Peter Saint-Andre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Pavel Simerda wrote: > >>> On Tue, 29 J

Re: [Standards] XEP-0154: User Profile - enterprise vs. simple

2008-07-31 Thread Pavel Simerda
Hello Peter, this is just reactions to your post, I will later summarize what I have and include some examples so we can advance from theory to something real. On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 08:23:36 -0600 Peter Saint-Andre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: (citation shortened) > > 2) The simpler case - user publ

Re: [Standards] ICE/UDP and NAT

2008-07-30 Thread Pavel Simerda
On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 17:21:43 +0200 "Sylvain Mundialco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi. > > Can I have more clarity on these: > > We are implementing jingle and all is going all but the configuration > NAT/Firewall for both peer is not working. I'm thinking to use relayed > candidate but I know

Re: [Standards] XEP-0231 (Data Element) - local caching

2008-07-30 Thread Pavel Simerda
On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 07:04:16 -0600 Peter Saint-Andre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Pavel Simerda wrote: > > On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 19:49:01 -0600 > > Peter Saint-Andre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Ahoj Pavle! > >> > >> Pavel Simerda

Re: [Standards] Questions about xhtml-im

2008-07-30 Thread Pavel Simerda
On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 13:04:33 +0200 Jehan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Peter Saint-Andre;1984 Wrote: > > > > Please quote the entire section: > > > > *** > > > > A user agent that implements this specification MUST conform to > > Section > > > > 3.5 ("XHTML Family User Agent Conformance") o

Re: [Standards] presence priority -1 use case

2008-07-30 Thread Pavel Simerda
Hello, folks at jabbim.cz are working on a service for a single-contact webchat (visitors of your website may chat with you in a simple UI). There are various issues with the implementation on XMPP. Especially the JID of the web user. 1) It could be [EMAIL PROTECTED] The problem is with presenc

Re: [Standards] XEP-0231 (Data Element) - local caching

2008-07-29 Thread Pavel Simerda
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 19:49:01 -0600 Peter Saint-Andre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ahoj Pavle! > > Pavel Simerda wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I have some suggestions for XEP-0231 (Data Element). > > Thanks for looking at this spec so thoroughly. > I actua

Re: [Standards] XEP-0154: User Profile - enterprise vs. simple

2008-07-29 Thread Pavel Simerda
Hello, I'm going to describe the issues we discussed in the jdev MUC room from my point of view. I'll also try to offer something new :). dwd pointed out many issues with enterprise-grade solutions and user profiles. stpeter suggested that these may also affect bigger public services (e.g. Facebo

Re: [Standards] XEP-0154: User Profile - comments

2008-07-29 Thread Pavel Simerda
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 21:21:02 -0600 Peter Saint-Andre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ahoj Pavle! ;-) > > Pavel Simerda wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I finally got to examine the XEP-0154 (User Profile). > > Thanks for the review. It was fun :). > > When

Re: [Standards] XEP-0154: User Profile - comments

2008-07-28 Thread Pavel Simerda
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 16:07:24 +0100 Dave Cridland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: (citations shortened, for the sake of readability) > Right, I thought so too, initially. But data forms are well > understood, and prevent people from going too crazy about these > things. Ideally, I just want key=>va

Re: [Standards] XEP-0154: User Profile - comments

2008-07-28 Thread Pavel Simerda
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 16:09:34 +0200 "Grégoire Menuel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 7:09 AM, Pavel Simerda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > 1) Look at the examples at > > http://www.xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0163.html (Personal E

Re: [Standards] XEP-0231 (Data Element) - local caching

2008-07-25 Thread Pavel Simerda
nt (or currently use) chatstates. Is the answer: Ok, we have no session, we send it each time again? Pavel On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:46:06 +0200 Marcus Lundblad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ons 2008-07-23 klockan 03:52 +0200 skrev Pavel Simerda: > > Hello, > > > > I h

[Standards] XEP-0154: User Profile - comments

2008-07-22 Thread Pavel Simerda
ate XEPs? This are a lot of issues to cope with, I expect a lot of comments and discussion. I want to help as much as I can with this one :), tell me what need to be done. Cheers, Pavel Simerda -- Web: http://www.pavlix.net/ Jabber & Mail: pavlix(at)pavlix.net OpenID: pavlix.net

[Standards] XEP-0231 (Data Element) - local caching

2008-07-22 Thread Pavel Simerda
Hello, I have some suggestions for XEP-0231 (Data Element). Right now, as the example shows: Yet here's a spot. Yet here's a spot. iVBORw0KGgoNSUhEUgoKCAYAAACNMs+9BGdBTUEAALGP C/xhBQlwSFlzAAALEwAACxMBAJqcGAd0SU1

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