Hello!

No, it's impossible to determine, if the message was delivered with Chat Markers, 'cause Chat Markers allows you to send marker not for every message. So, if you didn't receive "RECEIVED" marker for a message but received the marker for the next one, you have to consider the first message also received. That sounds stupid, but that's what XEP says.

So, to be sure that message was really delivered, we need Message Delivery Receipts. 


4 мар. 2020 г. 1:18 пользователь Andrew Nenakhov <andrew.nenak...@redsolution.com> написал:

We have it implemented in 'read' mode, so all our clients can receive
delivery receipts, but never send them.

I think this XEP should be obsoleted in favour of XEP-0333 Chat
Markers, which does all that XEP-0184 does, plus something more.

вт, 3 мар. 2020 г. в 22:46, Jonas Schäfer <jo...@wielicki.name>:

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