Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0402 (Bookmarks 2 (This Time it's Serious))

2020-02-14 Thread Maxime Buquet
On 2020/02/13, Florian Schmaus wrote: > On 1/29/20 5:33 PM, Jonas Schäfer (XSF Editor) wrote: > > This message constitutes notice of a Last Call for comments on > > XEP-0402. > > > > Title: Bookmarks 2 (This Time it's Serious) > > Abstract: > > This specification defines a syntax and storage profi

Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0402 (Bookmarks 2 (This Time it's Serious))

2020-02-14 Thread Dave Cridland
On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 at 20:14, Florian Schmaus wrote: > On 1/29/20 5:33 PM, Jonas Schäfer (XSF Editor) wrote: > > This message constitutes notice of a Last Call for comments on > > XEP-0402. > > > > Title: Bookmarks 2 (This Time it's Serious) > > Abstract: > > This specification defines a syntax a

Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0402 (Bookmarks 2 (This Time it's Serious))

2020-02-13 Thread Florian Schmaus
On 1/29/20 5:33 PM, Jonas Schäfer (XSF Editor) wrote: > This message constitutes notice of a Last Call for comments on > XEP-0402. > > Title: Bookmarks 2 (This Time it's Serious) > Abstract: > This specification defines a syntax and storage profile for keeping a > list of chatroom bookmarks on the

Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0402 (Bookmarks 2 (This Time it's Serious))

2020-02-13 Thread Florian Schmaus
On 2/13/20 8:31 PM, Dave Cridland wrote: > On Wed, 12 Feb 2020 at 16:54, Georg Lukas > wrote: > Persistence: certain PEP implementations from the past, which are still > distributed by major OS platforms, chose to implement PEP in a > non-persistent way, only kee

Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0402 (Bookmarks 2 (This Time it's Serious))

2020-02-13 Thread Dave Cridland
Georg, On Wed, 12 Feb 2020 at 16:54, Georg Lukas wrote: > * Jonas Schäfer [2020-01-29 17:34]: > > 1. Is this specification needed to fill gaps in the XMPP protocol > > stack or to clarify an existing protocol? > > Yes, it's a significant improvement over existing bookmarks. > > > 2. Does the sp

Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0402 (Bookmarks 2 (This Time it's Serious))

2020-02-13 Thread Dave Cridland
These are late Last Call comments, but seeing as I'm an author *and* on the Council, I figured better late than never... On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 at 16:33, Jonas Schäfer wrote: > This message constitutes notice of a Last Call for comments on > XEP-0402. > > Title: Bookmarks 2 (This Time it's Serious)

Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0402 (Bookmarks 2 (This Time it's Serious))

2020-02-12 Thread Georg Lukas
* Jonas Schäfer [2020-01-29 17:34]: > 1. Is this specification needed to fill gaps in the XMPP protocol > stack or to clarify an existing protocol? Yes, it's a significant improvement over existing bookmarks. > 2. Does the specification solve the problem stated in the introduction > and requirem

Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0402 (Bookmarks 2 (This Time it's Serious))

2020-02-09 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Am Mo., 3. Feb. 2020 um 13:56 Uhr schrieb Maxime Buquet : > > I forgot to add that the "autojoin" attribute is likely going to > conflict with 0430 Inbox' features. Which one should I respect if I > implement both XEPs? I think there is less overlap with 'Inbox' as this just gives us faster access

Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0402 (Bookmarks 2 (This Time it's Serious))

2020-02-09 Thread Daniel Gultsch
> >Bikeshed: "Atomic Bookmarks in PEP"? > > I like it, it's more descriptive. I agree. It's a much better name. ___ Standards mailing list Info: https://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/standards Unsubscribe: standards-unsubscr...@xmpp.org __

Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0402 (Bookmarks 2 (This Time it's Serious))

2020-02-08 Thread JC Brand
Am 30. Januar 2020 11:44:33 MEZ schrieb "Jonas Schäfer" : >On Donnerstag, 30. Januar 2020 08:45:22 CET Daniel Gultsch wrote: >> Am Mi., 29. Jan. 2020 um 16:34 Uhr schrieb Jonas Schäfer >: >> > 5. Is the specification accurate and clearly written? >> >> I share Sam’s concerns regarding the title

Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0402 (Bookmarks 2 (This Time it's Serious))

2020-02-03 Thread Florian Schmaus
On 03.02.20 18:34, Dave Cridland wrote: > Very quick note: I've picked up an entertaining virus while at FOSDEM - > hopefully not *that* coronavirus - so I'm not thinking clear enough to > respond to the comments here but I am reading them. > > At the moment, I don't think there's anything I find

Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0402 (Bookmarks 2 (This Time it's Serious))

2020-02-03 Thread Dave Cridland
Very quick note: I've picked up an entertaining virus while at FOSDEM - hopefully not *that* coronavirus - so I'm not thinking clear enough to respond to the comments here but I am reading them. At the moment, I don't think there's anything I find myself moved to argue against; Maxime's point abou

Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0402 (Bookmarks 2 (This Time it's Serious))

2020-02-03 Thread Maxime Buquet
On 2020/02/03, Maxime Buquet wrote: > > 3. Do you plan to implement this specification in your code? If not, > > why not? > > I have not implemented it yet, but I would. > > As this spec allows to handle bookmarks separately, it's easier to > handle group/Enterprise(tm) bookmarks. The server can

Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0402 (Bookmarks 2 (This Time it's Serious))

2020-02-03 Thread Maxime Buquet
My answer is a mix of what Sam, Daniel, and lovetox say. :) > This Last Call begins today and shall end at the close of business on > 2020-02-12. > Please consider the following questions during this Last Call and send > your feedback to the standards@xmpp.org discussion list: > 1. Is this spe

Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0402 (Bookmarks 2 (This Time it's Serious))

2020-01-30 Thread Jonas Schäfer
On Donnerstag, 30. Januar 2020 08:45:22 CET Daniel Gultsch wrote: > Am Mi., 29. Jan. 2020 um 16:34 Uhr schrieb Jonas Schäfer : > > 5. Is the specification accurate and clearly written? > > I share Sam’s concerns regarding the title. > > Maybe the benefits of Bookmarks 2 over Bookmarks need to be

Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0402 (Bookmarks 2 (This Time it's Serious))

2020-01-29 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Am Mi., 29. Jan. 2020 um 16:34 Uhr schrieb Jonas Schäfer : > > This message constitutes notice of a Last Call for comments on > XEP-0402. > > Title: Bookmarks 2 (This Time it's Serious) > Abstract: > This specification defines a syntax and storage profile for keeping a > list of chatroom bookmarks

Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0402 (Bookmarks 2 (This Time it's Serious))

2020-01-29 Thread Philipp Hörist
> 1. Is this specification needed to fill gaps in the XMPP protocol > stack or to clarify an existing protocol? > Yes > 2. Does the specification solve the problem stated in the introduction > and requirements? > It solves the problem described and introduces a new problem. Migration to this st

Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0402 (Bookmarks 2 (This Time it's Serious))

2020-01-29 Thread Sam Whited
I would like to mention again that as funny as the title is, we should stop this trend of putting silly things after the XEP title. They do not add value, they make it harder to cite (do I really have to write the joke after every single use of the title when referencing it from another XEP, for ex

[Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0402 (Bookmarks 2 (This Time it's Serious))

2020-01-29 Thread XSF Editor
This message constitutes notice of a Last Call for comments on XEP-0402. Title: Bookmarks 2 (This Time it's Serious) Abstract: This specification defines a syntax and storage profile for keeping a list of chatroom bookmarks on the server. URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0402.html This Last