[Standards] NEW: XEP-0225 (Component Connections)

2007-08-08 Thread XMPP Extensions Editor
Version 0.1 of XEP-0225 (Component Connections) has been released. Abstract: This document specifies a standards-track XMPP protocol extension that enables server components to connect to XMPP servers. Changelog: Initial published version. (psa) Diff: N/A URL: http://www.xmpp.org/extensions/xe

Re: [Standards] NEW: XEP-0225 (Component Connections)

2007-08-08 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
XMPP Extensions Editor wrote: > Version 0.1 of XEP-0225 (Component Connections) has been released. > > Abstract: This document specifies a standards-track XMPP protocol > extension that enables server components to connect to XMPP servers. One of the items up for discussion is the default namespa

Re: [Standards] NEW: XEP-0225 (Component Connections)

2007-08-08 Thread Rachel Blackman
On Aug 8, 2007, at 1:44 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: XMPP Extensions Editor wrote: Version 0.1 of XEP-0225 (Component Connections) has been released. Abstract: This document specifies a standards-track XMPP protocol extension that enables server components to connect to XMPP servers. One of

Re: [Standards] NEW: XEP-0225 (Component Connections)

2007-08-08 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
Rachel Blackman wrote: > > On Aug 8, 2007, at 1:44 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > >> XMPP Extensions Editor wrote: >>> Version 0.1 of XEP-0225 (Component Connections) has been released. >>> >>> Abstract: This document specifies a standards-track XMPP protocol >>> extension that enables server com

Re: [Standards] NEW: XEP-0225 (Component Connections)

2007-08-08 Thread Justin Karneges
On Wednesday 08 August 2007 1:44 pm, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > XMPP Extensions Editor wrote: > > Version 0.1 of XEP-0225 (Component Connections) has been released. > > > > Abstract: This document specifies a standards-track XMPP protocol > > extension that enables server components to connect to X

Re: [Standards] NEW: XEP-0225 (Component Connections)

2007-08-08 Thread Tomasz Sterna
Dnia 08-08-2007, śro o godzinie 15:11 -0700, Justin Karneges napisał(a): > I vote not repeating this mistake. This means > no 'jabber:component' or such. The choice should be between > 'jabber:client' > and 'jabber:server' for the namespace. Use a real attribute or > element to > indicate com

Re: [Standards] NEW: XEP-0225 (Component Connections)

2007-08-09 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
Tomasz Sterna wrote: > Dnia 08-08-2007, śro o godzinie 15:11 -0700, Justin Karneges napisał(a): >> I vote not repeating this mistake. This means >> no 'jabber:component' or such. The choice should be between >> 'jabber:client' >> and 'jabber:server' for the namespace. Use a real attribute or >

Re: [Standards] NEW: XEP-0225 (Component Connections)

2007-08-09 Thread Matthias Wimmer
Hi Peter! Peter Saint-Andre schrieb: I don't have a strong preference really. A component feels a bit more like a client because it is a local connection, plus c2s connections are simpler than s2s connections. Let's pick one and be done with it. :) The reason why I for the most part suggest u

Re: [Standards] NEW: XEP-0225 (Component Connections)

2007-08-09 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
Hi Matthias! :) Matthias Wimmer wrote: > Hi Peter! > > Peter Saint-Andre schrieb: >> I don't have a strong preference really. A component feels a bit more >> like a client because it is a local connection, plus c2s connections are >> simpler than s2s connections. Let's pick one and be done with i

Re: [Standards] NEW: XEP-0225 (Component Connections)

2007-08-09 Thread Justin Karneges
On Thursday 09 August 2007 8:03 pm, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > Hi Matthias! :) > > Matthias Wimmer wrote: > > Hi Peter! > > > > Peter Saint-Andre schrieb: > >> I don't have a strong preference really. A component feels a bit more > >> like a client because it is a local connection, plus c2s connect

Re: [Standards] NEW: XEP-0225 (Component Connections)

2007-08-09 Thread Joe Hildebrand
On Aug 9, 2007, at 10:01 PM, Justin Karneges wrote: There's an even bigger one: server connections can only send stanzas in one direction. Although that's more of a protocol thing than a schema thing, if you want to get picky. :) This is a good enough reason for me, which is why I like ja

Re: [Standards] NEW: XEP-0225 (Component Connections)

2007-08-10 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
Ralph Meijer wrote: > jabber:server and jabber:client both don't make much sense > for component streams. I think we have a couple of choices here: > > 1. Use a separate namespace for the component streams. > 2. Choose from jabber:server and jabber:client > 3. Iff we do a new version of XMPP (i

Re: [Standards] NEW: XEP-0225 (Component Connections)

2007-08-10 Thread Ralph Meijer
I'm a bit torn about this, comments inline. On Wed, 2007-08-08 at 15:11 -0700, Justin Karneges wrote: > On Wednesday 08 August 2007 1:44 pm, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > > XMPP Extensions Editor wrote: > > > Version 0.1 of XEP-0225 (Component Connections) has been released. > > > > > > Abstract: Thi

Re: [Standards] NEW: XEP-0225 (Component Connections)

2007-08-10 Thread Alexander Gnauck
Hello, i am for jabber:client because i don't like the namespace switching in software. But this does not help that much if we stick with other namespaces on s2s connections forever. Alex

Re: [Standards] NEW: XEP-0225 (Component Connections)

2007-08-10 Thread Matthias Wimmer
Hi Justin! Justin Karneges schrieb: I don't have a strong preference really. A component feels a bit more like a client because it is a local connection, plus c2s connections are simpler than s2s connections. Let's pick one and be done with it. :) The reason why I for the most part suggest usin

Re: [Standards] NEW: XEP-0225 (Component Connections)

2007-08-10 Thread Tomasz Sterna
Dnia 10-08-2007, pią o godzinie 10:26 +0200, Matthias Wimmer napisał(a): > But I'd prefere to use 'jabber:server'. Even if have a bit of > the expression, that people merely prefere 'jabber:client' just > because > more people seem to work on clients or client connections were they > are > more

Re: [Standards] NEW: XEP-0225 (Component Connections)

2007-08-10 Thread Michal 'vorner' Vaner
Hello On Fri, Aug 10, 2007 at 11:19:59AM -0700, Justin Karneges wrote: > > That said, all server implementations need to do this namespace juggling > > anyway, so I don't see how it is an extra burden to do this for another > > namespace, too. > > What doesn't sit well with me is this idea of the

Re: [Standards] NEW: XEP-0225 (Component Connections)

2007-08-10 Thread Justin Karneges
On Friday 10 August 2007 12:20 am, Ralph Meijer wrote: > My namespace handing code has None besides the typical empty and > non-empty namespace names. None means inheriting from whatever is the > default namespace of the parent (or closest ancestor that sets this. So, > I convert the namespace to N

Re: [Standards] NEW: XEP-0225 (Component Connections)

2007-08-10 Thread Matthias Wimmer
Hi Tomasz! Tomasz Sterna schrieb: Dnia 10-08-2007, pią o godzinie 10:26 +0200, Matthias Wimmer napisał(a): But I'd prefere to use 'jabber:server'. Even if have a bit of the expression, that people merely prefere 'jabber:client' just because more people seem to work on clients or client connect