Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Multi-User Chat Light

2015-12-14 Thread Piotr Nosek
Hi Dave, a) It retains some level of compatibility, please see Implementation Notes. It is possible to use 0045 protocol for most of the functionality in transition period. "Substantial chunk of work" is not very precise. In our case the initial implementation that did not support 0045

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Multi-User Chat Light

2015-12-14 Thread Dave Cridland
On 14 December 2015 at 16:04, Piotr Nosek wrote: > Hi Dave, > > a) It retains some level of compatibility, please see Implementation > Notes. It is possible to use 0045 protocol for most of the functionality in > transition period. "Substantial chunk of work" is

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Multi-User Chat Light

2015-12-14 Thread Brian Cully
, that is likely to be confused with the > brightness emitted by the sun and glowing objects, IMHO. > > Best, > Adán > > > Mensaje original > De: Dave Cridland <d...@cridland.net> > Fecha:14/12/2015 07:09 PM (GMT+01:00) > Para: XMPP Standards

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Multi-User Chat Light

2015-12-14 Thread Stefan Strigler
2015-12-14 16:16 GMT+00:00 Dave Cridland : > > > No, you cannot have an arbitrary XEP-0045 service also presented over this > protocol; it has to be a cut-down, especially written service. The result > is that existing '45 features are lost entirely. > The service identifies

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Multi-User Chat Light

2015-12-14 Thread Stefan Strigler
Hi, 2015-12-14 17:06 GMT+00:00 Tobias M : > > On 14.12.2015, at 17:56, Stefan Strigler > wrote: > > if you want to do IQ with members of a room in the context of MUC Light > you would do so by addressing them directly since there is no

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Multi-User Chat Light

2015-12-14 Thread Stefan Strigler
Tobias, if you want to do IQ with members of a room in the context of MUC Light you would do so by addressing them directly since there is no concept of anonymous or semi-anonymous rooms. Cheers, Stefan 2015-12-14 16:39 GMT+00:00 Tobias M : > > On 14.12.2015, at

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Multi-User Chat Light

2015-12-14 Thread Dave Cridland
On 14 December 2015 at 17:08, Stefan Strigler wrote: > > 2015-12-14 16:16 GMT+00:00 Dave Cridland : > >> >> >> No, you cannot have an arbitrary XEP-0045 service also presented over >> this protocol; it has to be a cut-down, especially written

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Multi-User Chat Light

2015-12-14 Thread adansdpc
ightness emitted by the sun and glowing objects, IMHO. Best, Adán Mensaje original De: Dave Cridland <d...@cridland.net> Fecha:14/12/2015 07:09 PM (GMT+01:00) Para: XMPP Standards <standards@xmpp.org> Cc: Asunto: Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Multi-Us

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Multi-User Chat Light

2015-12-09 Thread Dave Cridland
This is quite a substantial protocol, but has, I think, two issues which mean it is problematic to accept in my opinion: a) It is not just presence-less MUC. It's an entirely new protocol which is incompatible with existing XEP-0045. Even the room affiliation model is different, allowing for

[Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Multi-User Chat Light

2015-12-08 Thread XMPP Extensions Editor
The XMPP Extensions Editor has received a proposal for a new XEP. Title: Multi-User Chat Light Abstract: This specification provides a presence-less standard for Multi-User Chats. Its feature set is a response to mobile XMPP applications needs and specific environment. URL:

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Multi-User Chat Light

2015-12-08 Thread Matthieu Rakotojaona
Le mardi 8 décembre 2015 18:39:38 CEST, XMPP Extensions Editor a écrit : The XMPP Extensions Editor has received a proposal for a new XEP. Title: Multi-User Chat Light Abstract: This specification provides a presence-less standard for Multi-User Chats. Its feature set is a response to mobile