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At the XMPP Summit a few weeks ago, the assembled throng had a
discussion about SIFT. Unfortunately I wasn't in the room at that time
(perhaps I was presenting the XMPP 101 tutorial with Jack, or up at the
Google Wave Federation Day), so I don't know e
On Mon Jun 8 23:22:34 2009, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
"Don't send my [outbound] presence" or "Don't send me [inbound]
presence" or both? Based on previous discussions, I assume the
latter.
Inbound.
> - or turns off that state. Nothing gets
> dropped, just delayed, maybe by a maximum time.
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On 6/5/09 5:29 PM, Dave Cridland wrote:
> On Fri Jun 5 23:57:06 2009, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
>> Fabio Forno has found some good results with SIFT on a mobile phone:
>>
>> http://blog.bluendo.com/ff/xmpp-and-compression-a-little-experiment
>
> Hmmm
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On 6/6/09 3:15 AM, Dave Cridland wrote:
> On Sat Jun 6 02:54:44 2009, Brian Cully wrote:
>> Sorry, on my phone so I can't do proper inline replies.
>>
>> Maybe I'm missing something, but preserving presence on the server
>> until a subsequent iq or m
On Sat Jun 6 02:54:44 2009, Brian Cully wrote:
Sorry, on my phone so I can't do proper inline replies.
Maybe I'm missing something, but preserving presence on the server
until a subsequent iq or message stanza leads to dos attacks via
resource consumption. Is that not what you were advoca
Sorry, on my phone so I can't do proper inline replies.
Maybe I'm missing something, but preserving presence on the server
until a subsequent iq or message stanza leads to dos attacks via
resource consumption. Is that not what you were advocating?
-bjc
On Jun 5, 2009, at 19:29, Dave Cridla
On Fri Jun 5 23:57:06 2009, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
Fabio Forno has found some good results with SIFT on a mobile phone:
http://blog.bluendo.com/ff/xmpp-and-compression-a-little-experiment
Hmmm - I had a long chat with Forno the other evening, and I've been
meaning to write it up in a more
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Fabio Forno has found some good results with SIFT on a mobile phone:
http://blog.bluendo.com/ff/xmpp-and-compression-a-little-experiment
Perhaps what we need to do is define the base SIFT spec as a very simple
method for blocking inbound stanzas by t
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On 5/18/09 12:20 PM, Joe Hildebrand wrote:
> 2009/5/18 Jiří Zárevúcky :
>> Well, until now I believed that "unavailable" presence doesn't mean
>> "show me offline", but "make me unavailable for presence exchange and
>> messaging". But you're right, it
2009/5/18 Jiří Zárevúcky :
> Well, until now I believed that "unavailable" presence doesn't mean
> "show me offline", but "make me unavailable for presence exchange and
> messaging". But you're right, it doesn't really matter.
>
> Anyway, if SIFT capable client went invisible mid-session, it could
2009/5/18 Peter Saint-Andre :
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> On 5/16/09 6:45 AM, Jiří Zárevúcky wrote:
>> Hello. The filtering/intercepting functionality seems nice for IQ
>> stanzas, but I have doubts about some of the use cases.
>>
>> "Invisibility" as defined by this spec
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On 5/16/09 6:45 AM, Jiří Zárevúcky wrote:
> Hello. The filtering/intercepting functionality seems nice for IQ
> stanzas, but I have doubts about some of the use cases.
>
> "Invisibility" as defined by this spec would certainly ease it's
> handling by
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On 5/16/09 6:52 AM, Dirk Meyer wrote:
> Jiří Zárevúcky wrote:
>> 2009/5/16 Dirk Meyer :
>>> Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/sift.html
>>> I only took a quick look at the spec and maybe I missed it, but what
>>> happens to
Jiří Zárevúcky wrote:
> 2009/5/16 Dirk Meyer :
>> Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
>>> http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/sift.html
>>
>> I only took a quick look at the spec and maybe I missed it, but what
>> happens to an IQ that got filtered? If a client sends an IQ it expects
>> an answer and that answer
2009/5/16 Dirk Meyer :
> Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
>> http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/sift.html
>
> I only took a quick look at the spec and maybe I missed it, but what
> happens to an IQ that got filtered? If a client sends an IQ it expects
> an answer and that answer maybe 'client not available'.
Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/sift.html
I only took a quick look at the spec and maybe I missed it, but what
happens to an IQ that got filtered? If a client sends an IQ it expects
an answer and that answer maybe 'client not available'. What is the
answer if the recipi
Hello. The filtering/intercepting functionality seems nice for IQ
stanzas, but I have doubts about some of the use cases.
"Invisibility" as defined by this spec would certainly ease it's
handling by both client and server, but is changes the meaning of
available and unavailable presence stanzas. T
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On 5/14/09 9:39 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> On 5/14/09 9:24 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
>> On 5/14/09 9:19 PM, Waqas Hussain wrote:
>>> On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 8:15 AM, Peter Saint-Andre
>>> wrote:
> The namespace seems to have retained its r
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On 5/14/09 9:24 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> On 5/14/09 9:19 PM, Waqas Hussain wrote:
>> On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 8:15 AM, Peter Saint-Andre
>> wrote:
The namespace seems to have retained its roots instead of using sift.
>>> Not sure what you m
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On 5/14/09 9:19 PM, Waqas Hussain wrote:
> On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 8:15 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
>>> The namespace seems to have retained its roots instead of using sift.
>> Not sure what you mean here.
>>
>
> s/urn:xmpp:dc:0/urn:xmpp:sift:0/ und
On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 8:15 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
>> The namespace seems to have retained its roots instead of using sift.
>
> Not sure what you mean here.
>
s/urn:xmpp:dc:0/urn:xmpp:sift:0/ under
http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/sift.html#registrar-ns
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On 5/14/09 4:32 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> Yesterday while Jack Moffitt was in Denver, Joe Hildebrand and I worked
> with him on a method for registering stanza handlers with the server so
> that the client can ask the server to deliver only certai
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Yesterday while Jack Moffitt was in Denver, Joe Hildebrand and I worked
with him on a method for registering stanza handlers with the server so
that the client can ask the server to deliver only certain kinds of
stanzas. This could be used for the kind
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