Re: [Standards] XEP-0170: Recommended Order of Stream Feature Negotiation

2014-04-30 Thread Kim Alvefur
On 2014-04-29 18:12, Kim Alvefur wrote: does not mention XEP 198, Stream Management. 198 does point to 170 however. [...] it makes sense for the server to offer the SM feature when it will be possible for the other party to start sending stanzas, not before. But for c2s connection that is

[Standards] XEP-0170: Recommended Order of Stream Feature Negotiation

2014-04-29 Thread Kim Alvefur
Hello list, I noticed that XEP-0170 1) talks about the old RFCs and 2) does not mention XEP 198, Stream Management. 198 doesn't use a stream restart, so some description about that could be useful. Is it perhaps time for an update to this XEP (or replacement)? -- Kim Zash Alvefur

Re: [Standards] XEP-0170: Recommended Order of Stream Feature Negotiation

2014-04-29 Thread Lance Stout
On Apr 29, 2014, at 9:12 AM, Kim Alvefur z...@zash.se wrote: Hello list, I noticed that XEP-0170 1) talks about the old RFCs and 2) does not mention XEP 198, Stream Management. 198 doesn't use a stream restart, so some description about that could be useful. Is it perhaps time for an

[Standards] XEP-0170 Recommended Order of Stream Feature Negotiation

2007-08-16 Thread Mats Bengtsson
FYI: Since there is (was) conflicting recommendations in XEP-0170, Recommended Order of Stream Feature Negotiation, (SASL - compression) and XEP-0138, Stream Compression, (compression - SASL), but St Peter said 0170 is the correct one, I thought about investigating what servers say: OpenFire

Re: [Standards] XEP-0170 Recommended Order of Stream Feature Negotiation

2007-08-16 Thread Mridul
You can get sasl to provide the means to establish an encrypted channel after authentication (digest-md5 for example) - which is the reason to establish compression after sasl. Since we already have tls, I dont know what sort of value add it would provide in xmpp case ... but the order of feature