Re: [Standards] end-to-end encryption meeting

2007-11-09 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
Justin Karneges wrote: > On Thursday 08 November 2007 3:34 pm, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: >> In general, we decided (again?) that only ESessions and XTLS really make >> sense to pursue further (i.e., not OpenPGP, S/MIME, OTR, or xmlenc). > > To explain: > - At the meeting, Perfect Forward Secrecy

Re: [Standards] end-to-end encryption meeting

2007-11-09 Thread Justin Karneges
On Thursday 08 November 2007 3:34 pm, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > In general, we decided (again?) that only ESessions and XTLS really make > sense to pursue further (i.e., not OpenPGP, S/MIME, OTR, or xmlenc). To explain: - At the meeting, Perfect Forward Secrecy (PFS) was decided to be a requir

Re: [Standards] end-to-end encryption meeting

2007-11-08 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > As you can tell from my submission of the XTLS proposal, the topic of > end-to-end encryption ("e2e") is once again on the table. > > There is a long history to these discussions. Perhaps I'll write a blog > entry about it one these days. > > History aside, the main thi

Re: [Standards] end-to-end encryption meeting

2007-11-07 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
Hi Justin! Thanks for your perspective, and sorry for the delayed reply. Justin Karneges wrote: > So, here's a question: can we create a protocol that allows the same user > experience as OTR, but instead is based on something proven? I believe the > answer is yes. Both RFC 3923 and XTLS wou

Re: [Standards] end-to-end encryption meeting

2007-11-01 Thread Justin Karneges
On Thursday 01 November 2007 3:49 pm, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > We held a preliminary discussion in the Council room today among some > folks who are interested (mainly the Board and Council, with invites to > two people who have implemented Encrypted Sessions and proto-XTLS): > > http://www.jabbe

[Standards] end-to-end encryption meeting

2007-11-01 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
As you can tell from my submission of the XTLS proposal, the topic of end-to-end encryption ("e2e") is once again on the table. There is a long history to these discussions. Perhaps I'll write a blog entry about it one these days. History aside, the main thing is that at the Council meeting next