Re: [Standards] off-server archives with MAM

2015-04-27 Thread Kevin Smith
On 18 Apr 2015, at 03:57, Peter Saint-Andre - yet pe...@andyet.net wrote: The Message Archive Management spec (XEP-0313) seems to assume that a message archive will live on the server It was my intention to not have the text require this. I tried to put some effort into making it very

Re: [Standards] off-server archives with MAM

2015-04-18 Thread Goffi
On 18/04/2015 11:03, Dave Cridland wrote: Between XEP-0355 and carbons, I think you're covered already, at first thought. Indeed the XEP-0355 has a mechanism to delegate MAM (or something else) to any entity under the control of the user. The issue here is that the data still go through the

Re: [Standards] off-server archives with MAM

2015-04-18 Thread Stefan Strigler
Sounds like a really nice hack. A recombination of presence, disco and MAM to gain a totally different user experience. +1 for the idea :) Not sure where to put this though. How about XEP-1337 Hacks :D 2015-04-18 5:24 GMT+02:00 Kurt Zeilenga kurt.zeile...@isode.com: On Apr 17, 2015, at

Re: [Standards] off-server archives with MAM

2015-04-18 Thread Stefan Strigler
Oh, my list is missing the carbons of course. 2015-04-18 10:58 GMT+02:00 Stefan Strigler stefan.strig...@gmail.com: Sounds like a really nice hack. A recombination of presence, disco and MAM to gain a totally different user experience. +1 for the idea :) Not sure where to put this though.

Re: [Standards] off-server archives with MAM

2015-04-18 Thread Dave Cridland
On 18 Apr 2015 03:58, Peter Saint-Andre - yet pe...@andyet.net wrote: Ideally, to me, my message archive would be stored on a trusted device that is under my control (say, a limited-access storage medium that I keep in my house). This device could authenticate to my account and advertise its

[Standards] off-server archives with MAM

2015-04-17 Thread Peter Saint-Andre - yet
The Message Archive Management spec (XEP-0313) seems to assume that a message archive will live on the server where a user has registered an account. This raises privacy and security concerns, especially if the messages are not encrypted: as a user I might not want all that message history on

Re: [Standards] off-server archives with MAM

2015-04-17 Thread Kurt Zeilenga
On Apr 17, 2015, at 7:57 PM, Peter Saint-Andre - yet pe...@andyet.net wrote: The Message Archive Management spec (XEP-0313) seems to assume that a message archive will live on the server where a user has registered an account. This raises privacy and security concerns, especially if