Re: [Stellarium-pubdevel] Re 2: New Idea: DSO viewing options

2012-03-19 Thread Barry Gerdes
Hi Key stroke (key bindings) are very useful. particularly on lap tops although not so important on desktops where a mouse works well. The biggest problems we have with key bindings is twofold, the number with duplicate functions and the use of non USA keyboards. Check through the help file for

Re: [Stellarium-pubdevel] Improving the website

2012-03-19 Thread Matthew Gates
All the new revisions except 50: "enable backward compatible mode fore hyperlinks" are OK. I need to sleep now - will approve and merge tomorrow. revision 50 has troubles on the test site because links were changes for css and js from relative paths in ./... to absolute paths to the root of the w

[Stellarium-pubdevel] Re 2: New Idea: DSO viewing options

2012-03-19 Thread edtakken
I should have added that keystroke equivalents give both ease of learning for the beginner via the menus, and good (perhaps the best possible) facile and fine-tuned control for the experienced users and astronomers. Ed. PS: Just updated my notes at takken.us/stellarium. Hopefully they ar

Re: [Stellarium-pubdevel] New Idea: DSO viewing options

2012-03-19 Thread edtakken
Hi Tom, It is the keystroke equivalents that are magic. The menus after a while are just a help display. Sub-menus can be used to make things fit on a small display. Ed On Mar 19, 2012, at 5:38 PM, Thomas Morris wrote: > Hi Ed, > > I'm not convinced that replacing the nebula sliders with a drop

Re: [Stellarium-pubdevel] GSoc Project "Realistic comet rendering"

2012-03-19 Thread Reaves, Timothy
By all means, post links to your code. On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 7:08 PM, Srijan Tiwari wrote: > sir, > Its difficult for me to judge my skills, i have done some nice projects, > but 'nice' is again dependent , would you like to have a look at my opengl > work, and access whether i would be able to

Re: [Stellarium-pubdevel] GSoc Project "Realistic comet rendering"

2012-03-19 Thread Georg Zotti
I have created another virtual solar system model a good decade ago and modeled a comet consisting of an irregular (.OBJ ?) core, coma (simple 2D billboard) and two parabolas textured with a semitransparent gradient that dissipated on the outer end. The parabolas became visible somewhere outside Ma

Re: [Stellarium-pubdevel] GSoc Project "Realistic comet rendering"

2012-03-19 Thread Srijan Tiwari
sir, Its difficult for me to judge my skills, i have done some nice projects, but 'nice' is again dependent , would you like to have a look at my opengl work, and access whether i would be able to do this or not(only if you find it appropriate)? Regards On 20 March 2012 04:08, Reaves, Timothy wr

Re: [Stellarium-pubdevel] GSoc Project "Realistic comet rendering"

2012-03-19 Thread Reaves, Timothy
If you feel you can take on the comet rendering, please do. The second one you mention is fine as well. It comes down to your abilities with OpenGL, and then the modeling of either phenomena. On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 6:35 PM, Srijan Tiwari wrote: > comet rendering appears too difficult then, tha

Re: [Stellarium-pubdevel] IMPORTANT

2012-03-19 Thread Reaves, Timothy
There is now a formed linked from http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/google/gsoc2012/stellarium On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 7:39 PM, Nishant Gupta wrote: > Sir, > > I am Nishant Gupta currently pursuing engineering from Netaji Subhas > Institute Of technology. I have seen your project ideas and

Re: [Stellarium-pubdevel] GSoc Project "Realistic comet rendering"

2012-03-19 Thread Barry Gerdes
The subject of comet rendering is another wishlist item that has been brought up many times in the past and usually consigned to the "too Hard" basket Providing a meaning full 3D display would be an immense task due to the nature of comets and their changing form as they approach the Sun. Howeve

Re: [Stellarium-pubdevel] New Idea: DSO viewing options

2012-03-19 Thread Barry Gerdes
Hi Bogdan The issue of DSO displays has been around for some time. The initial work was done about version 0.7.1 I think when Fabien was first working on the DSS display. There was an extra button on a prototype GUI F4 menu in version 0.10.? that allowed the selection of image sources (visible

[Stellarium-pubdevel] IMPORTANT

2012-03-19 Thread Nishant Gupta
Sir, I am Nishant Gupta currently pursuing engineering from Netaji Subhas Institute Of technology. I have seen your project ideas and is very keen on doing it and working hard on it. Kindly help me on how to go start it. Thanking you in anticipation Nishant Gupta ---

Re: [Stellarium-pubdevel] New Idea: DSO viewing options

2012-03-19 Thread Thomas Morris
Hi Ed, I'm not convinced that replacing the nebula sliders with a drop-down menu would be more intuitive although I'm no expert on GUI design. Bear in mind that non-numerical information needs translations unless you use icons, potentially causing layout problems. Also drop-down menus wouldn't fit

Re: [Stellarium-pubdevel] New Idea: DSO viewing options

2012-03-19 Thread edtakken
I'm suggesting no advanced user section and no plugin GUI. Seems to me that there is a better way to do this and more. Link to notes sent a few minutes ago with same "From: Ed Takken" (Sorry if my notes are a bit short and inadequate. Hope to improve them soon.) Ed On Mar 19, 2012, at 3:02 PM

Re: [Stellarium-pubdevel] New Idea: DSO viewing options

2012-03-19 Thread edtakken
Hi Thomas and Brian, I think the way to do this one, as well as make the user interface both more facile and intuitive, is with drop-down menus. I put a draft of my idea at takken.us/stellarium, but need to do more to explain it. I suggest that the present slide bars are an encumbrance for the

Re: [Stellarium-pubdevel] Proposal Format

2012-03-19 Thread Nick Cage
Hi Timothy, Thank you! Best regars, Kaiqi On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 2:24 AM, Reaves, Timothy < trea...@silverfieldstech.com> wrote: > http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/google/gsoc2012/stellarium > > has a link to a form now. > > > > On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 12:51 PM, Nick Cage wrote: > >> Hi

Re: [Stellarium-pubdevel] New Idea: DSO viewing options

2012-03-19 Thread Chiraag Juvekar
I think the ideal way ahead would be to add an advanced user section. Something like a hidden interface that is folded by default. Someone who really needs the extra interface can unfold it and click the additional button. Perhaps like the under the hood section on chrome. On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at

Re: [Stellarium-pubdevel] New Idea: DSO viewing options

2012-03-19 Thread bdwashbu
So going forward, it sounds like the options are: 1.) Change the main GUI and NebulaMgr/Nebula code (no) 2.) Add a plugin GUI and change the NebulaMgr/Nebula code 3.) Add a plugin duplicating the NebulaMgr/Nebula code 4.) Adjust the plugin code interface. Would still have to change nebulaMgr to it

Re: [Stellarium-pubdevel] New Idea: DSO viewing options

2012-03-19 Thread Bogdan Marinov
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 8:13 PM, bdwashbu wrote: > Bogdan - thanks for the input.  I suspected there was a reason this feature > didn't exist.  As the new guy, I never meant to disrespect the current GUI > philosophies or the work you've done.  What you guys have already created is > awesome!  I d

Re: [Stellarium-pubdevel] GSOC

2012-03-19 Thread Reaves, Timothy
http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/google/gsoc2012/stellarium has a link to a form now. On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 8:44 AM, Nick Cage wrote: > Thank you so much! > > > On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 2:53 PM, Alexander Wolf wrote: > >> Hello Nick >> >> 2012/3/18 Nick Cage : >> > I am a student from

Re: [Stellarium-pubdevel] Regarding GSoC

2012-03-19 Thread Reaves, Timothy
http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/google/gsoc2012/stellarium has a link to a form now. On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 10:38 PM, Alexander Wolf wrote: > Hi! > > 2012/3/19 rajat gupta : > > I am Rajat Gupta. I am pursuing btech course at Dhirubhai Ambani > Institute > > of Information and Communic

Re: [Stellarium-pubdevel] gsoc 2012

2012-03-19 Thread Reaves, Timothy
http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/google/gsoc2012/stellarium has a link to a form now. On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 10:55 PM, Alexander Wolf wrote: > Hello! > > 2012/3/19 mukund tripathi : > > Can i get the mail contact for Mr. Timothy Reaves so that i can get in > > touch with him for the Rea

Re: [Stellarium-pubdevel] GSOC contact email

2012-03-19 Thread Reaves, Timothy
And thanks for putting that in clear text on a public mailing list. I'm sure my SPAM filter will love you. http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/google/gsoc2012/stellarium has a link to a form now. On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 6:55 AM, Nick Cage wrote: > Hi Alexander, > > Sorry I typed the wrong

Re: [Stellarium-pubdevel] GSOC 2012 Idea

2012-03-19 Thread Reaves, Timothy
http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/google/gsoc2012/stellarium has a link to a form now. On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 7:11 AM, Alexander Wolf wrote: > 2012/3/19 Namra Maheshwari : > > What do you think , How should I start with ?? > > I think you need contact to Timothy Reaves before start this

Re: [Stellarium-pubdevel] Proposal Format

2012-03-19 Thread Reaves, Timothy
http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/google/gsoc2012/stellarium has a link to a form now. On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 12:51 PM, Nick Cage wrote: > Hi, > > Any format we should follow to write the proposal? > > Best regards, > Kaiqi > > > -

Re: [Stellarium-pubdevel] New Idea: DSO viewing options

2012-03-19 Thread bdwashbu
Bogdan - thanks for the input. I suspected there was a reason this feature didn't exist. As the new guy, I never meant to disrespect the current GUI philosophies or the work you've done. What you guys have already created is awesome! I don't want to make it worse. A plugin sounds like a good a

Re: [Stellarium-pubdevel] New Idea: DSO viewing options

2012-03-19 Thread Thomas Morris
Hi Brian, Perhaps this could be implemented as a plug-in? ("extended DSO controls" or something like that). Personally I would like some extended controls particularly for making full use of the new NGC data catalogue. (Galaxy display based on surface brightness for example, which would certainly

Re: [Stellarium-pubdevel] Improving the website

2012-03-19 Thread Bogdan Marinov
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 6:47 PM, Reaves, Timothy wrote: > How are things added to the news column?  the GSoC stuff should appear > there. It includes the RSS feed from the SourceForge project news. Do you have anything to post? I think that all team members can create new news items. Bogdan --

Re: [Stellarium-pubdevel] New Idea: DSO viewing options

2012-03-19 Thread Bogdan Marinov
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 1:48 AM, bdwashbu wrote: > Cool! > > I have a prototype image here: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/81471534@N00/6848489598/lightbox/ Oh, my, more interface clutter. While users have requested a way to select which categories of DSOs are displayed, I think that a separate s

Re: [Stellarium-pubdevel] Improving the website

2012-03-19 Thread Reaves, Timothy
How are things added to the news column? the GSoC stuff should appear there. On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 5:59 AM, Alexander Wolf wrote: > 2012/3/19 Alexander Wolf : > > 2012/3/19 Matthew Gates : > >> 1 Please write step-by-step instructions for translation of the > website: > > For developers or

[Stellarium-pubdevel] Proposal Format

2012-03-19 Thread Nick Cage
Hi, Any format we should follow to write the proposal? Best regards, Kaiqi -- This SF email is sponsosred by: Try Windows Azure free for 90 days Click Here http://p.sf.net/sfu/sfd2d-msazure___

Re: [Stellarium-pubdevel] GSOC 2012 Idea

2012-03-19 Thread Alexander Wolf
2012/3/19 Namra Maheshwari : > What do you think , How should I start with ?? I think you need contact to Timothy Reaves before start this task. ;) -- With best regards, Alexander -- This SF email is sponsosred by: Try

Re: [Stellarium-pubdevel] GSOC contact email

2012-03-19 Thread Nick Cage
Hi Alexander, Sorry I typed the wrong thing. Actually I sent the email correctly. Thanks! Best regards, Kaiqi On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 6:51 PM, Alexander Wolf wrote: > Hi, Nick! > > 2012/3/19 Nick Cage : > > trea...@slivertech.com is Mr. Reaves's email, right? I just sent him an > > email. Hope

Re: [Stellarium-pubdevel] GSOC contact email

2012-03-19 Thread Alexander Wolf
Hi, Nick! 2012/3/19 Nick Cage : > trea...@slivertech.com is Mr. Reaves's email, right? I just sent him an > email. Hope it is correct. No, his email is trea...@silverfieldstech.com I think Timothy will be on IRC through 2-3 hours. -- With best regards, Alexander --

[Stellarium-pubdevel] GSOC contact email

2012-03-19 Thread Nick Cage
Hi Alexander, trea...@slivertech.com is Mr. Reaves's email, right? I just sent him an email. Hope it is correct. Best regards, Kaiqi -- This SF email is sponsosred by: Try Windows Azure free for 90 days Click Here http:/

Re: [Stellarium-pubdevel] GSOC 2012 Idea

2012-03-19 Thread Alexander Wolf
2012/3/19 Namra Maheshwari : > My name is Namra Maheshwari . I am a student of computer science and > technology at IIIT Hyderabad, India. [skipped] It's looks is very good for me! -- With best regards, Alexander -- Th

Re: [Stellarium-pubdevel] Improving the website

2012-03-19 Thread Alexander Wolf
2012/3/19 Alexander Wolf : > 2012/3/19 Matthew Gates : >> 1   Please write step-by-step instructions for translation of the website: > For developers or for translators? Step-by-step instructions for translators and developers - http://stellarium.org/wiki/index.php/Homepage_translation -- With b

Re: [Stellarium-pubdevel] Improving the website

2012-03-19 Thread Alexander Wolf
Hi! 2012/3/19 Matthew Gates : > 1   Please write step-by-step instructions for translation of the website: For developers or for translators? > 1a) for extracting new translatable text from index.php and friends > and putting it into launchpad For extractions new translatable text from index.ph

Re: [Stellarium-pubdevel] Improving the website

2012-03-19 Thread Matthew Gates
So 2 questions right back at you :) 1 Please write step-by-step instructions for translation of the website: 1a) for extracting new translatable text from index.php and friends and putting it into launchpad 1b) downloading translated text from launchpad and using it with the site 2. The wi