Re: [Stellarium-pubdevel] user, not developer

2012-03-20 Thread edtakken
Right on both counts I write Fortran and C to do modeling calculations for myself, but am not good enough to be part of any development team, so I am "just a user." "Push my GUI idea" - well, yes. But shouldn't a experienced user know a mediocre GUI when he sees one, and maybe

Re: [Stellarium-pubdevel] Re2: Re 2: New Idea: DSO viewing options

2012-03-20 Thread edtakken
Hi Brian, Prototype is at www.takken.us/stellarium which has three links on it to example files. The "discussion" file has three pages of prototyping, page three using white menu write over superimposed on a black screen display copied from Stellarium. If you mean write prototype code, sorry I

Re: [Stellarium-pubdevel] Re2: Re 2: New Idea: DSO viewing options

2012-03-20 Thread edtakken
Hi Barry, I speed touch type thanks to my Mother making me take a typing course in high school when I really, really did not want to. And when navigating files and browsing I drive two handed, the right on the mouse to grab and move things, and the left then acting on them for cut, co

[Stellarium-pubdevel] Re2: Re 2: New Idea: DSO viewing options

2012-03-20 Thread edtakken
Another thought. I haven't looked to see how, but Apple and Microsoft have both internationalized their OS pull-down menus and equivalent keystrokes. So it is doable. > Hi Barry, > > Part of the objective I suggest is to NOT have duplication of function, > menus allowing removal of so

Re: [Stellarium-pubdevel] Re 2: New Idea: DSO viewing options

2012-03-20 Thread edtakken
Hi Barry, Part of the objective I suggest is to NOT have duplication of function, menus allowing removal of some parts of Settings panes, like slide bars, (and providing clarification of what Save means and when, where and how to do it). Or perhaps rearrange the panes so that they

[Stellarium-pubdevel] Re 2: New Idea: DSO viewing options

2012-03-19 Thread edtakken
I should have added that keystroke equivalents give both ease of learning for the beginner via the menus, and good (perhaps the best possible) facile and fine-tuned control for the experienced users and astronomers. Ed. PS: Just updated my notes at takken.us/stellarium. Hopefully they ar

Re: [Stellarium-pubdevel] New Idea: DSO viewing options

2012-03-19 Thread edtakken
Hi Tom, It is the keystroke equivalents that are magic. The menus after a while are just a help display. Sub-menus can be used to make things fit on a small display. Ed On Mar 19, 2012, at 5:38 PM, Thomas Morris wrote: > Hi Ed, > > I'm not convinced that replacing the nebula sliders with a drop

Re: [Stellarium-pubdevel] New Idea: DSO viewing options

2012-03-19 Thread edtakken
I'm suggesting no advanced user section and no plugin GUI. Seems to me that there is a better way to do this and more. Link to notes sent a few minutes ago with same "From: Ed Takken" (Sorry if my notes are a bit short and inadequate. Hope to improve them soon.) Ed On Mar 19, 2012, at 3:02 PM

Re: [Stellarium-pubdevel] New Idea: DSO viewing options

2012-03-19 Thread edtakken
Hi Thomas and Brian, I think the way to do this one, as well as make the user interface both more facile and intuitive, is with drop-down menus. I put a draft of my idea at takken.us/stellarium, but need to do more to explain it. I suggest that the present slide bars are an encumbrance for the