Re: .NET: We are just like Struts... only better.

2003-12-27 Thread Frans Thamura, Intercitra
yah, M$ and Bill is arogan, they never give the fans a space, i think they hurting us again, if we are using .NET offcourse. THis case smiliar with mvps.org case, :) never supported by Microsoft, even they are using Microsoft product. So, how about you? Joe Hertz wrote: It was left handed bas

Re: [OT] Who owns Eclipse

2003-12-27 Thread Frans Thamura, Intercitra
I think Eclipse is own by commynity, but with IBM money, they put all the contributor, commiter, and the decision for next version by their empolyee. This is not a product from home ground dude. :) So, in my head, Eclipse is still IBM. like it or not. Event if IBM go bancrupt, Eclipse still th

Re: .NET: We are just like Struts... only better.

2003-12-27 Thread Frans Thamura, Intercitra
I think this article will explain that Microsoft is not support Open Source community, M$ only support people that want to support money, :) Our War Money Chest is bigger than all of you all the Java guys (including the Open Source). [EMAIL PROTECTED] how can M$ have that money? So, this mean