Re: Are httpSessions thread safe?

2003-12-18 Thread David Erickson
;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 10:41 AM Subject: RE: Are httpSessions thread safe? > I guess creating Hibernate Sessions and Destroying them on every request > isn't as bad as I imagine it is? > > I figured creating the session when the user showed up

Re: Are httpSessions thread safe?

2003-12-18 Thread Max Cooper
rform just fine. -Max - Original Message - From: "David Erickson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 9:26 AM Subject: Re: Are httpSessions thread safe?

RE: Are httpSessions thread safe?

2003-12-18 Thread Joe Hertz
this isn't quite worth the effort? No one else seems to mind :) -Joe > -Original Message- > From: David Erickson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 12:27 PM > To: Struts Users Mailing List; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Are httpSessions

Re: Are httpSessions thread safe?

2003-12-18 Thread Adolfo Miguelez
http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/[EMAIL PROTECTED]&msgId=149353 From: "David Erickson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<[EMAIL PROT

Re: Are httpSessions thread safe?

2003-12-18 Thread David Erickson
destroyed. -David - Original Message - From: "Joe Hertz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Struts Users Mailing List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 10:20 AM Subject: RE: Are httpSessions thread safe? > I saw these. I just ha

Re: Are httpSessions thread safe?

2003-12-18 Thread Max Cooper
. And Kris's test shows it probably wouldn't do what you expect it to anyway. -Max - Original Message - From: "Kris Schneider" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 8:32 AM Subject: Re:

RE: Are httpSessions thread safe?

2003-12-18 Thread Joe Hertz
hreadLocal into a httpSession I suspect would be funny to watch. > -Original Message- > From: Kris Schneider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 11:45 AM > To: Struts Users Mailing List; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Are httpSessions thread safe

Re: Are httpSessions thread safe?

2003-12-18 Thread David Erickson
> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 1:09 AM Subject: RE: Are httpSessions thread safe? > The sessions essentially just a sort of Map. Access to it may be threadsafe, > but the stuff thats in it is another matter entirely. Multiple requests > associated with the same session will execute s

RE: Are httpSessions thread safe?

2003-12-18 Thread Kris Schneider
this type of condition I > suppose. > > -J > > > -Original Message- > > From: Kris Schneider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 11:12 AM > > To: Struts Users Mailing List > > Subject: RE: Are httpSessions thread safe?

Re: Are httpSessions thread safe?

2003-12-18 Thread Joe Germuska
At 8:22 AM -0800 12/18/03, Max Cooper wrote: Even though you got a few different objects with those calls, they all represent the same conceptual "session" underneath. The concept of a session would be worthless otherwise. In other words, if you stash a reference to some object in the session, you

RE: Are httpSessions thread safe?

2003-12-18 Thread Joe Hertz
bly okay. A token could effectively prevent this type of condition I suppose. -J > -Original Message- > From: Kris Schneider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 11:12 AM > To: Struts Users Mailing List > Subject: RE: Are httpSessions thread safe? > &

Re: Are httpSessions thread safe?

2003-12-18 Thread Kris Schneider
sers Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 8:11 AM > Subject: RE: Are httpSessions thread safe? > > > > Synchronizing on the session object may cause you all sorts of grief...or > it may > > not. It all depends on your container

Re: Are httpSessions thread safe?

2003-12-18 Thread Max Cooper
List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 8:11 AM Subject: RE: Are httpSessions thread safe? > Synchronizing on the session object may cause you all sorts of grief...or it may > not. It all depends on your container. The spec makes no guarantees about the &

RE: Are httpSessions thread safe?

2003-12-18 Thread Kris Schneider
Synchronizing on the session object may cause you all sorts of grief...or it may not. It all depends on your container. The spec makes no guarantees about the identity of the object returned by methods like PageContext.getSession or HttpServletRequest.getSession. For example, here's a test JSP: <%

Re: Are httpSessions thread safe?

2003-12-18 Thread Max Cooper
Two threads can access and use the same object from the session at the same time. Struts does not prevent this from occurring. It is something to worry about unless you want to be woken up with bug reports in the middle of the night. :-) -Max - Original Message - From: "Joe Hertz" <[EMA

RE: Are httpSessions thread safe?

2003-12-18 Thread Joe Germuska
At 4:09 PM +0800 12/18/03, Andrew Hill wrote: The sessions essentially just a sort of Map. Access to it may be threadsafe, but the stuff thats in it is another matter entirely. Multiple requests associated with the same session will execute simultaneously. There's nothing in the specs that guarante

RE: Are httpSessions thread safe?

2003-12-18 Thread Kris Schneider
If Hibernate sessions are not thread-safe by design, then stuffing one in a web app session and wrapping it with your own synchronization doesn't seem like the right approach. I've never actually used Hibernate, so I could be way off base, but it sounds more like a job for a filter. The filter woul

RE: Are httpSessions thread safe?

2003-12-18 Thread Andrew Hill
The sessions essentially just a sort of Map. Access to it may be threadsafe, but the stuff thats in it is another matter entirely. Multiple requests associated with the same session will execute simultaneously. If you have >1 threads playing with the same unsafe object (which you just happened to