> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 9:04 AM
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> > Subject: RE: Redux: Actions and business logic, or
> Using Struts with the
> > Rational Unified Process
> >
> >
> >
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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your business tier.
Sorry for butting in, but that's just my 2 cents.
robert
> -Original Message-
> From: John Bigboote [mailto:y0yodyne@;yahoo.com]
> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 9:04 AM
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: RE: Redux: Actions and business lo
James,
Thanks for clarifying things for me.
John
--- James Higginbotham
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> John,
>
> > is an MVC framework. Granted, while it tends
> toward
> > the presentation layer, it does provide mechanisms
> > that venture into the problem domain, like
> FormBeans.
>
> Not qu
John,
> is an MVC framework. Granted, while it tends toward
> the presentation layer, it does provide mechanisms
> that venture into the problem domain, like FormBeans.
Not quite sure what you mean here, as FormBeans are simply javabeans
that are used to store the user's input form data before i
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > example apps, so I'm interested in how Struts
> > > maps to the contructs of RUP.
>
> RUP is a software methodology framework, so I
> wouldn't consider Struts something that maps to the
> constructs of RUP as much as an enabler technology
> designing maintain
Comments inline.
>
> Quite short on details, but the report recommends
> that "the Struts framework should be used to implement
>
> the interaction between the presentation and business
> layers".
>
> Comments?
True.
> > example apps, so I'm interested in how Struts maps
> > to
> > the con
A follow-up to my initial post: I should have
mentioned
that a search of the Rational site yielded the
following
resource:
http://www.therationaledge.com/content/sep_02/m_bestPractices_pr.jsp
Quite short on details, but the report recommends
that "the Struts framework should be used to imple
My company operates an electronic marketplace very
much like a stock exchange. As such, there are a
myriad of rules and regulations that govern its
operation. We have adopted the Rational Unified
Process and, not wanting to reinvent the wheel, I'm
exploring how Struts would fit into an architectu
Jesse
-Original Message-
From: Keith Bacon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Freitag, 8. Februar 2002 17:42
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: actions and business logic
I agree.
Is it worthwhile adding a facade layer if you only have 1 or 2 different user
interfaces? I can
see the val
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Subject: actions and business logic
I wanted to clarify something.
We are in the design stages of our project and have to make a decision
what
role do Actions play in the framework.
We are using JRF for the database tier, and Struts for presentation o
I agree.
Is it worthwhile adding a facade layer if you only have 1 or 2 different user
interfaces? I can
see the value if a change to business logic requires dozens of GUI changes. Also if
you are
writing a UI for a part of a complex system it's a way of the owners of the system
presenting you
Hi!
In my opinion:
The Action-objects should handle the workflow, second level validation,
security, ... and so on. It makes things much more complicated when you mix
up workflow with business logic. So usually I try to use a facade pattern
(see design pattern book from gang of 4) for getting a
s Users Mailing List'
Subject: actions and business logic
I wanted to clarify something.
We are in the design stages of our project and have to make a decision
what
role do Actions play in the framework.
We are using JRF for the database tier, and Struts for presentation one.
I want to
We also use JRF & Struts. We try never to put any business logic in the
action object. Action objects call boundary objects and the boundary
objects call business logic controller objects. All business logic goes
into the controller objects. As you can see, we build our applications
based on t
I wanted to clarify something.
We are in the design stages of our project and have to make a decision what
role do Actions play in the framework.
We are using JRF for the database tier, and Struts for presentation one.
I want to get a clear-cut answer to decide how much business logic (such as
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