Re: deepest, shallowest, average

2014-06-11 Thread Lutz Vieweg
On 06/11/2014 11:29 PM, Robert C. Helling wrote: On 11 Jun 2014, at 20:15, Lutz Vieweg wrote: I guess if somebody really wants to visualize an informative statement on "How deep do I usually dive?" then a histogram would be the best way to do it: "Depth" on the X-Axis, "Total time spent in that

Re: deepest, shallowest, average

2014-06-11 Thread Dirk Hohndel
On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 11:29:32PM +0200, Robert C. Helling wrote: > > On 11 Jun 2014, at 20:15, Lutz Vieweg wrote: > > Hi, > > > I guess if somebody really wants to visualize an informative > > statement on "How deep do I usually dive?" then a histogram > > would be the best way to do it: > >

Re: deepest, shallowest, average

2014-06-11 Thread Robert C. Helling
On 11 Jun 2014, at 20:15, Lutz Vieweg wrote: Hi, > I guess if somebody really wants to visualize an informative > statement on "How deep do I usually dive?" then a histogram > would be the best way to do it: > "Depth" on the X-Axis, "Total time spent in that depth" on the > Y-Axis, and then 20-

Re: deepest, shallowest, average

2014-06-11 Thread Lutz Vieweg
On 06/10/2014 07:44 AM, Dirk Hohndel wrote: I decided to just remove the average. This really doesn't provide any interesting information, whichever semantic we pick. Good, that was my favorite option, too. I guess if somebody really wants to visualize an informative statement on "How deep do

Re: deepest, shallowest, average

2014-06-09 Thread Dirk Hohndel
On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 07:25:27PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote: > On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 6:56 PM, Dirk Hohndel wrote: > > > > Average right now is the average depth of all the dives - not the average > > of all the deepest depths. From a mathematical point of view this makes > > perfect sense. But

Re: deepest, shallowest, average

2014-06-09 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 6:56 PM, Dirk Hohndel wrote: > > Average right now is the average depth of all the dives - not the average > of all the deepest depths. From a mathematical point of view this makes > perfect sense. But it is extremely unintuitive - especially when the > average frequently is

deepest, shallowest, average

2014-06-09 Thread Dirk Hohndel
This email will make some old-timers giggle. We've had this discussion quite a few times. At least three or four times a year it seems like. And after resoundingly defending our nomenclature for many years I think I'm finally coming around. Should we change the meaning of the "average" depth? De