Re: Re. subsurface: FTBFS in experimental

2015-08-27 Thread Dirk Hohndel
On Aug 27, 2015, at 07:17, Pierre-Yves Chibon pin...@pingoured.fr wrote: I'd love to fix those. Can you point them out to me? When first setting things up I did a few test installs in VMs and all seemed to work fine. But I never tried to build the source rpms, to be honest. I'm hoping

Re: Re. subsurface: FTBFS in experimental

2015-08-27 Thread Dirk Hohndel
On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 02:36:45PM +0200, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 02:22:18PM +0200, Guillaume Gardet wrote: Hi, Le 26/08/2015 13:21, Pierre-Yves Chibon a écrit : Well apparently subsurface is now targeted towards Win/Mac[0] (no binaries for Linux)... so the

Re: Re. subsurface: FTBFS in experimental

2015-08-27 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 06:58:57AM -0700, Dirk Hohndel wrote: On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 02:36:45PM +0200, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 02:22:18PM +0200, Guillaume Gardet wrote: Hi, Le 26/08/2015 13:21, Pierre-Yves Chibon a écrit : Well apparently subsurface is

Re: Re. subsurface: FTBFS in experimental

2015-08-27 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 02:22:18PM +0200, Guillaume Gardet wrote: Hi, Le 26/08/2015 13:21, Pierre-Yves Chibon a écrit : Well apparently subsurface is now targeted towards Win/Mac[0] (no binaries for Linux)... so the experience for FLOSS users will simply be that there is no subsurface

Re: Re. subsurface: FTBFS in experimental

2015-08-27 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Wednesday 26 August 2015 06:50:20 Dirk Hohndel wrote: And then there is Linux. 1/5th of the number of users that Windows has (for Subsurface). Even though on Windows there are tons of alternatives and on Linux there's nothing else. And we have all the developers here mixed into those

Re: Re. subsurface: FTBFS in experimental

2015-08-27 Thread Guillaume Gardet
Hi, Le 26/08/2015 13:21, Pierre-Yves Chibon a écrit : Well apparently subsurface is now targeted towards Win/Mac[0] (no binaries for Linux)... so the experience for FLOSS users will simply be that there is no subsurface anymore. No, we have binaries available for Ubuntu, Fedora, OpenSUSE,

Re: Re. subsurface: FTBFS in experimental

2015-08-27 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Wednesday 26 August 2015 17:40:28 Tomaz Canabrava wrote: I don’t know anything about CentOS, but these days I happen to build subsurface on Macs which only have homebrew which should be much more basic than any Linux distribution package manager. But here, I just have to install a few

Re: Re. subsurface: FTBFS in experimental

2015-08-26 Thread Robert C. Helling
Lutz, On 26 Aug 2015, at 20:10, Lutz Vieweg l...@5t9.de mailto:l...@5t9.de wrote: I don't know anything about copr yet, and I am kind of sure that the way I built Subsurface for CentOS (in a freely relocateable directory which holds everything including a script which deduces the required

Re: subsurface: FTBFS in experimental

2015-08-26 Thread Christian PERRIER
libgit,... well I'm not really into the subsurface code, but I never understood why you introduced that as a storage backend. Even the most prolific divers I know don't have more then 30k-50k dives, and usually these people stopped logging there day to day dives decades ago. Using a plain

Re: Re. subsurface: FTBFS in experimental

2015-08-26 Thread Lutz Vieweg
On 08/26/2015 07:52 PM, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: Yesterday I endeavored to build the Subsurface git master head on CentOS, and it was kind of a nightmare - everything, from just-one-patchlevel-version-of- cmake-ahead-of-what-CentOS-delivers, continuing with of course Qt 5 in a very certain

Re: Re. subsurface: FTBFS in experimental

2015-08-26 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 07:33:06PM +0200, Lutz Vieweg wrote: This thread has turned into a bitter fight over distribution policies vs. upstream maintainer's freedom of choice, where I see valid arguments from both sides as well too much emotion. To contribute another view point: I am

Re: Re. subsurface: FTBFS in experimental

2015-08-26 Thread Dirk Hohndel
On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 06:32:39PM +0200, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 09:15:51AM -0700, Dirk Hohndel wrote: On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 05:18:16PM +0200, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: Would you help me to get things set up so I can do this? The server all of my

Re: Re. subsurface: FTBFS in experimental

2015-08-26 Thread Lutz Vieweg
This thread has turned into a bitter fight over distribution policies vs. upstream maintainer's freedom of choice, where I see valid arguments from both sides as well too much emotion. To contribute another view point: I am using the most recent and up-to-date CentOS release, also on the laptop

Re: Re. subsurface: FTBFS in experimental

2015-08-26 Thread Dirk Hohndel
On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 05:18:16PM +0200, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: Would you help me to get things set up so I can do this? The server all of my non-Mac builds run on happens to be a Ubuntu system. Is that an issue? Can I push things into copr from Ubuntu or do I need to be on Fedora? I

Re: Re. subsurface: FTBFS in experimental

2015-08-26 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 09:15:51AM -0700, Dirk Hohndel wrote: On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 05:18:16PM +0200, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: Would you help me to get things set up so I can do this? The server all of my non-Mac builds run on happens to be a Ubuntu system. Is that an issue? Can I

Re: Re. subsurface: FTBFS in experimental

2015-08-26 Thread Lutz Vieweg
On 08/26/2015 09:56 PM, Anton Lundin wrote: There are a bunch of cmake flags to turn some bells off. Most of those are to support different builds of subsurface, like the Android app, but those can be (ab)used to reduce your subsurface building burden. FBSUPPORT=OFF - no more facebook share.

Re: Re. subsurface: FTBFS in experimental

2015-08-26 Thread Anton Lundin
On 26 August, 2015 - Lutz Vieweg wrote: On 08/26/2015 09:56 PM, Anton Lundin wrote: There are a bunch of cmake flags to turn some bells off. Most of those are to support different builds of subsurface, like the Android app, but those can be (ab)used to reduce your subsurface building burden.

Re: subsurface: FTBFS in experimental

2015-08-26 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 01:40:44PM +0300, Lubomir I. Ivanov wrote: i'm getting the notion that the Linux distribution maintainers are simply buthurt for the fact that Linus Torvalds started Subsurface and as a peace of software it now no longer obeys the Linux distribution rules; it's setting

Re: subsurface: FTBFS in experimental

2015-08-26 Thread Lubomir I. Ivanov
On 26 August 2015 at 05:38, Christoph Anton Mitterer cales...@scientia.net wrote: On Tue, 2015-08-25 at 17:55 -0700, Dirk Hohndel wrote: Being called stupid and arrogant is usually not a great conversation opener, but hey, I've been called worse. Well I should have probably immediately

Re: Re. subsurface: FTBFS in experimental

2015-08-26 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
Well apparently subsurface is now targeted towards Win/Mac[0] (no binaries for Linux)... so the experience for FLOSS users will simply be that there is no subsurface anymore. No, we have binaries available for Ubuntu, Fedora, OpenSUSE, Mint, and, of course, Debian. And we have a fully

Re: Re. subsurface: FTBFS in experimental

2015-08-26 Thread Dirk Hohndel
Hi Pierre, On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 04:20:16PM +0200, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 06:50:20AM -0700, Dirk Hohndel wrote: I looked quickly over the spec file and I call already tell that the spec file used would not be valid on Fedora, even more fun the source rpm

Re: Re. subsurface: FTBFS in experimental

2015-08-26 Thread Dirk Hohndel
On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 01:21:21PM +0200, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: Well apparently subsurface is now targeted towards Win/Mac[0] (no binaries for Linux)... so the experience for FLOSS users will simply be that there is no subsurface anymore. No, we have binaries available for

Re: Re. subsurface: FTBFS in experimental

2015-08-26 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 07:37:01AM -0700, Dirk Hohndel wrote: On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 04:20:16PM +0200, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 06:50:20AM -0700, Dirk Hohndel wrote: I looked quickly over the spec file and I call already tell that the spec file used would

Re: subsurface: FTBFS in experimental

2015-08-26 Thread Anton Lundin
On 26 August, 2015 - Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: On Tue, 2015-08-25 at 17:55 -0700, Dirk Hohndel wrote: ... An application should be able to bring its own libraries for those libraries that it is so tightly coupled with that it makes no sense to allow random combinations. So today

Re: Re. subsurface: FTBFS in experimental

2015-08-26 Thread Tomaz Canabrava
On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 4:39 PM, Robert C. Helling hell...@atdotde.de wrote: Lutz, On 26 Aug 2015, at 20:10, Lutz Vieweg l...@5t9.de wrote: I don't know anything about copr yet, and I am kind of sure that the way I built Subsurface for CentOS (in a freely relocateable directory which holds

Re: subsurface: FTBFS in experimental

2015-08-25 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
On Tue, 2015-08-25 at 17:55 -0700, Dirk Hohndel wrote: Being called stupid and arrogant is usually not a great conversation opener, but hey, I've been called worse. Well I should have probably immediately apologised along the way, just for the sake of politeness... But the believe to know it

Re: Re. subsurface: FTBFS in experimental

2015-08-25 Thread Steve Butler
On 08/25/2015 05:10 PM, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: Hey. How saddening to see such a nice program for divers being basically destroyed by a stupid and arrogant upstream (and while some may consider this impolite, I guess it's simply the truth). Humph. The daily PPA works fine for me on

Re. subsurface: FTBFS in experimental

2015-08-25 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
Hey. How saddening to see such a nice program for divers being basically destroyed by a stupid and arrogant upstream (and while some may consider this impolite, I guess it's simply the truth). Especially the assumption to know it better than the rest of the whole opensource world and decades of

Re: Re. subsurface: FTBFS in experimental

2015-08-25 Thread Dirk Hohndel
On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 02:10:06AM +0200, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: How saddening to see such a nice program for divers being basically destroyed by a stupid and arrogant upstream (and while some may consider this impolite, I guess it's simply the truth). You are entitled to your