Re: [sugar] [PATCH] (Incomplete) Activity Launch Feedback

2008-05-19 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 5:50 PM, Gary C Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Eben/Tomeu, On 18 May 2008, at 15:37, Eben Eliason wrote: Attached,with launchbox.py included. - Eben I'm trying to apply you patch directly to an Xo with joyride 1946 (I don't have access to any other build

Re: [sugar] [PATCH] (Incomplete) Activity Launch Feedback

2008-05-19 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 6:10 PM, Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry for the spam. This includes the necessary change to the makefile, and also fixes a few small bugs in the former versions. I'm still testing the rpm, but at a first glance, the pulsing is taking too much CPU. Looks

Re: [sugar] [PATCH] (Incomplete) Activity Launch Feedback

2008-05-19 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 11:33 AM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 6:10 PM, Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry for the spam. This includes the necessary change to the

Re: [sugar] [PATCH] (Incomplete) Activity Launch Feedback

2008-05-19 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 11:55 AM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On joyride, the shell just takes a few percents of cpu during launch, so perhaps it's good enough for now. Correction, takes 7%, enough to give it a look. Tomeu ___ Sugar

Re: [sugar] Experiments with Metacity

2008-05-19 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 12:00 PM, Sayamindu Dasgupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried to do that (maximize() and then set_decorated(False)). As soon as I set the window to undecorated, it seems to assume fullscreen

Re: [sugar] Experiments with Metacity

2008-05-19 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 3:42 PM, Sayamindu Dasgupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 12:00 PM, Sayamindu Dasgupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried to do that (maximize() and then

Re: [sugar] Experiments with Metacity

2008-05-19 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 11:41 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maximize + undecorated might work. It has to be done by each activity. We could add an option to make metacity show *no* decoration for maximized windows. As long as we have a Close menu on the frame that should be

Re: [sugar] Code review (was: Pippy VS Develop)

2008-05-19 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 2:12 PM, Jameson Chema Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These are really the only high-priority outstanding issues with develop as it stands (aside from translation and broader testing). And the process of code review does not appear to be working for me, I have a patch

Re: [sugar] [PATCH] activity.py: dirty flag and fix create_jobject == False case.

2008-05-19 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, +class WarningDictionary(dict): +def __getitem__(self,key): +warnings.warn(Trying to get key %s in unallocated activity metadata dictionary %s%(key,self), +RuntimeWarning, stacklevel=2) +return None +def __setetitem__(self,key,value): +

Re: [sugar] Code review (was: Pippy VS Develop)

2008-05-19 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 2:40 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also would like to understand if this is happening generally or just for the patches you are mentioning. I had not heard people complaining about slow reviews so far. No, I told Jameson that I'd review his

Re: [sugar] Pippy VS Develop

2008-05-19 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 2:12 PM, Jameson Chema Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Datastore is unreliable. This led to a major dataloss bug in the past which magically fixed itself, and to a separate minor one in the present (sometimes, save fails non-silently; activity complains, gives choice of

Re: [sugar] Pippy VS Develop

2008-05-19 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 19.05.2008, at 12:51, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: I'm trying to form my opinion about inclusion of Pippy and Develop in Sucrose 0.82. Here is my understanding: * Pippy is well maintained and tested but it's supposed to be just a stop gap solution. For the future we will be focusing on

Re: [sugar] Code review (was: Pippy VS Develop)

2008-05-19 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 2:48 PM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, I told Jameson that I'd review his patches because they affect code that has been maintained primarily by me. What happened is that I never found time to review those as higher priority items appeared in my TODO list,

Re: [sugar] Pippy VS Develop

2008-05-19 Thread Chris Ball
Hi, * Pippy is well maintained and tested but it's supposed to be just a stop gap solution. For the future we will be focusing on Develop. Pippy's activity creation ability and handling of the view source key is a stop-gap solution, but I don't think its goal of providing an introduction

[sugar] Activity versions

2008-05-19 Thread Morgan Collett
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 2:12 PM, Jameson Chema Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Cannot have two versions of an activity bundle installed at once (dev and stable) while debugging - esp. necessary for working on Develop itself. Also, you are forced to churn the activity.info version number

Re: [sugar] [PATCH] scroll activity list with the arrow keys

2008-05-19 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hi, the issue I see is that you have to hit the up/down keys twice or three times (focus entry widget, non-focus, focus scrollbar). So it might be hard to discover what is actually happening. @eben: how do we handle focus. We grab focus on the entry in the mesh view. We do not in the

Re: [sugar] Experiments with Metacity

2008-05-19 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 5:14 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 11:41 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maximize + undecorated might work. It has to be done by each activity. We could add an option to make metacity show *no* decoration

Re: [sugar] Pippy VS Develop

2008-05-19 Thread Eben Eliason
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 9:35 AM, Chris Ball [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: to solve. I don't view the two activities as competitive: * Pippy:Introductory Python tutor * Develop: Activity creation IDE Agreed. I think they serve different audiences/purposes. The only reason this could

[sugar] Activities Portal: Proposal/suggestion

2008-05-19 Thread Morgan Collett
I've been thinking about a better portal for downloading activities. I came up with some ideas, that I unfortunately don't have time to implement, but I would be happy to cheer someone on if they are inspired by this... It should be easy to upload an activity (specifically after the first time it

Re: [sugar] Activity versions

2008-05-19 Thread Eben Eliason
Yes, I've never understood the reason for the integer versioning system for activities. One argument I'm aware of is that it could make things simpler for kids, who might not understand more complex schemes. However, as you point out, if the relation between two versions of a given activity

Re: [sugar] Activities Portal: Proposal/suggestion

2008-05-19 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
Please wikify this! :) There is a note about something like this at the end of the doc page which would be good to link: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Documentation Marco On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 5:08 PM, Morgan Collett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been thinking about a better portal for

[sugar] [PATCH] Implement installation dates in the activity list

2008-05-19 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
From d9cf67dd382b492e93549344273658860e2410ae Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 18:04:24 +0200 Subject: [PATCH] Add ActivityBundle.installation_time and format the date in the activity list --- service/activityregistryservice.py |3 ++-

Re: [sugar] OLPC priorities for Sugar in the August release

2008-05-19 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 1:46 PM, Mikus Grinbergs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * More responsive UI - faster launch of activities Is the solution currently in joyride satisfactory for the August release? I use a recent Joyride on my G1G1. My average time to launch Browse (from the time I click

Re: [sugar] Sugar in LinuxTag 2008

2008-05-19 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 6:22 PM, Holger Levsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 13 May 2008 11:57, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: Do you have a sugar workshop / meeting planned at a specific date as well? Or do you plan to just meet for the whole 4 days? ;) We'll also get 2m^2 space at the Debian

Re: [sugar] Patch to make Browse annoy me less.

2008-05-19 Thread Eben Eliason
Just a high level take on these patches... On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 10:46 PM, Cortland Setlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, This patch does three things, and I'll be happy if even one makes it in to Browse. It causes ctrl-l (lowercase L) to put focus on the address bar like in all other

Re: [sugar] Patch to make Browse annoy me less.

2008-05-19 Thread Yamandu Ploskonka
pray pardon my ignorance. talking of Browser annoyances :-) Is ad filtering to happen at the server level, or is there a way to implement it on the XO? I vote for server (one fix for all), especially if there is a simple mechanism that can update such filter info directly from the teacher XO

Re: [sugar] hot corners

2008-05-19 Thread Walter Bender
Actually, Mel's youth did some keyboard evaluations for us early on in the program and they do have some XOs. They are a very capable group. -walter On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 9:31 AM, Greg Smith (gregmsmi) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Guys, Sounds like Walter is on it. My 2 cents, ask this

[sugar] Build only updated modules in jhbuild?

2008-05-19 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
marcopg uff jhbuild is so painful walters marcopg: you have build_policy = 'updated' at least right? marcopg walters: nope, didn't know about it... in the jhbuildrc? walters yep marcopg cool, will try it out walters marcopg: makes jhbuild about 5,000,000 times saner =) Sounds like something we

Re: [sugar] Activities Portal: Proposal/suggestion

2008-05-19 Thread Morgan Collett
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 5:16 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please wikify this! :) There is a note about something like this at the end of the doc page which would be good to link: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Documentation http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_portal

Re: [sugar] Activities Portal: Proposal/suggestion

2008-05-19 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
Has anyone evaluated Remora (http://wiki.mozilla.org/Update:Remora) for this ? This is the software which powers addons.mozilla.org Cheers, Sayamindu On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 11:47 PM, Morgan Collett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 5:16 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [sugar] Activities Portal: Proposal/suggestion

2008-05-19 Thread Eben Eliason
I know I've tossed this out several times before, but I do so again to be sure its in the backs of everyone's minds, at least once. I think the idea of creating an appcast, or an RSS feed with enclosures for bundles/updates, could be a clean way to handle the backend for such a service.

[sugar] Resp.: Activities Portal: Proposal/suggestion

2008-05-19 Thread Eduardo H Silva
I hope such a UI be developers friendly, i.e., not just be a list of activities which seemingly where made by magic elves ;) , providing no extra information of who made them or how to contact them. 2008/5/19, Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I know I've tossed this out several times before, but

Re: [sugar] Activities Portal: Proposal/suggestion

2008-05-19 Thread Eben Eliason
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 5:37 PM, Eduardo H Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope such a UI be developers friendly, i.e., not just be a list of activities which seemingly where made by magic elves ;) , providing no extra information of who made them or how to contact them. It can be anything we

Re: [sugar] Report on OLPC in Ethiopia

2008-05-19 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi Yamandu, I fed this into my self organising map (SOM) code. Here's the summary map generated for the report content: http://garycmartin.com/som/ethiopiareport_080227a-mh.jpg Oh, I was asked for a legend (on another list): http://garycmartin.com/som/SOM_legend.jpg --Gary