Re: [sugar] Help regarding Sugar on Ubuntu

2008-05-22 Thread Waqas Toor
Hello, On 5/23/08, C. Scott Ananian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 5/22/08, Waqas Toor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have changed fullscreen mode of Xephyr into 800x600, but now how to > > change the size of frames and icons ? > > I have tried changing sugar-xo.gtkrc file but nothing happe

Re: [sugar] Help regarding Sugar on Ubuntu

2008-05-22 Thread david
On Fri, 23 May 2008, C. Scott Ananian wrote: > On 5/22/08, Waqas Toor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I have changed fullscreen mode of Xephyr into 800x600, but now how to >> change the size of frames and icons ? >> I have tried changing sugar-xo.gtkrc file but nothing happens, any clues? >> >>

Re: [sugar] Help regarding Sugar on Ubuntu

2008-05-22 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On 5/22/08, Waqas Toor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have changed fullscreen mode of Xephyr into 800x600, but now how to > change the size of frames and icons ? > I have tried changing sugar-xo.gtkrc file but nothing happens, any clues? > > 2ndly, the activities inside this small screen do not

[sugar] Release process

2008-05-22 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On 5/22/08, Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Marco and I (as well as Dennis and Bernie) had some long chats at the > beginning of this week about how to work together to pull of the next > release. At Marco's request, I've posted one important chunk of this > conversation at > > http

[sugar] A Conversation with Marco

2008-05-22 Thread Michael Stone
Marco and I (as well as Dennis and Bernie) had some long chats at the beginning of this week about how to work together to pull of the next release. At Marco's request, I've posted one important chunk of this conversation at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Mstone/Commentaries/Releases_2 Please

[sugar] dual-display ebook reader project

2008-05-22 Thread Christoph Derndorfer
Some of you might have seen this, but it was certainly new to me: http://vis.berkeley.edu/papers/ebook/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mbh4Fdnv-s0 Definitely some food for thought wrt XO-2, don't you think? Thanks for the heads-up, curiouslee! Christoph -- Christoph Derndorfer Co-Editor OLPCn

[sugar] Second Bundle Commentary

2008-05-22 Thread Michael Stone
Dear sugar, Jameson, Ben, Eben, and I talked at length three weeks ago about bundle formats and the Sugar UI's data model. I've published a barely-edited transcript of that conversation at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Mstone/Commentaries/Bundles_2 Please review it at your leisure both for ac

Re: [sugar] [IAEP] OLPC's bizarre behaviors

2008-05-22 Thread Bernie Innocenti
C. Scott Ananian wrote: > Below the line was never posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Community news continues > to be published to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list, which is open > (as far as I know). I guess the only thing that's changed is that it > is no longer cc'ed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Should it be?

Re: [sugar] [IAEP] OLPC's bizarre behaviors

2008-05-22 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 4:45 AM, Christoph Derndorfer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So you're basically looking for someone who doesn't mind being despised > by both OLPC staff ("God, s/he keeps bugging me, how annoying!") and the > community ("s/he knows more than s/he's telling us"). Nah. We all

Re: [sugar] [IAEP] OLPC's bizarre behaviors

2008-05-22 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On 5/22/08, Christoph Derndorfer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > C. Scott Ananian schrieb: > > On 5/22/08, Yamandu Ploskonka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > To begin with, could we pinpoint _what_ we are looking in such a > person? > > > > > > 1.- obsessive openness, not subject to OLPC NDA > > > >

Re: [sugar] [IAEP] OLPC's bizarre behaviors

2008-05-22 Thread Christoph Derndorfer
C. Scott Ananian schrieb: > On 5/22/08, Yamandu Ploskonka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> To begin with, could we pinpoint _what_ we are looking in such a person? >> >> 1.- obsessive openness, not subject to OLPC NDA >> > > I actually want the opposite. You are welcome to have a non-OLPC

Re: [sugar] OLPC's bizarre behaviors

2008-05-22 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On 5/22/08, Yamandu Ploskonka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > To begin with, could we pinpoint _what_ we are looking in such a person? > > 1.- obsessive openness, not subject to OLPC NDA I actually want the opposite. You are welcome to have a non-OLPC community liason, but *I* want someone *employ

[sugar] Help regarding Sugar on Ubuntu

2008-05-22 Thread Waqas Toor
Hello All, I have changed fullscreen mode of Xephyr into 800x600, but now how to change the size of frames and icons ? I have tried changing sugar-xo.gtkrc file but nothing happens, any clues? 2ndly, the activities inside this small screen do not show properly i.e they remain the actual full scre

Re: [sugar] OLPC's bizarre behaviors

2008-05-22 Thread Yamandu Ploskonka
In total agreement, etc, here my 2 ¢ To avoid a "plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose*" kind of moment, could we have the naming of such an ombudsman be an open affair, not something done behind doors? To begin with, could we pinpoint _what_ we are looking in such a person? 1.- obsessive o

Re: [sugar] OLPC's bizarre behaviors

2008-05-22 Thread Paul Fox
c. scott ananian wrote: > On 5/22/08, Todd Cranston-Cuebas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think it's worth noting that with the announcement of the > > new 2.0 spec on the hardware, you're going to get even more > > backlash of current G1G1 participants feeling like they > > helped to fund a

Re: [sugar] [IAEP] OLPC's bizarre behaviors

2008-05-22 Thread david
On Thu, 22 May 2008, C. Scott Ananian wrote: > On 5/22/08, Bernie Innocenti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> e) A more broadly-focused "community news", agressively seeking out >>> and incorporating local as well as "offical OLPC" content >> >> Restoring the old weekly news posted to devel@ would

Re: [sugar] [IAEP] OLPC's bizarre behaviors

2008-05-22 Thread Walter Bender
Indeed, one of the goals of Sugar Labs is to help build community collaboration, so working together on organizing is a positive step forward. I plan to start sending a weekly Sugar Digest out--but it will not be comprehensive of all the OLPC comings and goings and it will include Sugar in other ve

Re: [sugar] OLPC's bizarre behaviors

2008-05-22 Thread Andres Salomon
On Thu, 22 May 2008 15:06:05 -0400 "C. Scott Ananian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > > pps. a little bird told me we've managed to ink deals with several > more countries on the strength of our country meetings this week, > which were 99% XO-1 related, even though we also used the opportunity

Re: [sugar] [IAEP] OLPC's bizarre behaviors

2008-05-22 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On 5/22/08, Bernie Innocenti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > e) A more broadly-focused "community news", agressively seeking out > > and incorporating local as well as "offical OLPC" content > > Restoring the old weekly news posted to devel@ would be a good > start. Perhaps even publishing the l

Re: [sugar] [IAEP] OLPC's bizarre behaviors

2008-05-22 Thread Bernie Innocenti
C. Scott Ananian wrote: > I would like to nominate SJ and Adam for the role of interim > community liason, as they've done a fantastic job to date > building and nourishing their respective content and support > communities. SJ and Adam did a great job in the past to leverage and organize the com

Re: [sugar] OLPC's bizarre behaviors

2008-05-22 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On 5/22/08, Todd Cranston-Cuebas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think it's worth noting that with the announcement of the new 2.0 spec on > the hardware, you're going to get even more backlash of current G1G1 > participants feeling like they helped to fund and purchase a system that is > basically

Re: [sugar] OLPC's bizarre behaviors

2008-05-22 Thread Todd Cranston-Cuebas
I think it's worth noting that with the announcement of the new 2.0 spec on the hardware, you're going to get even more backlash of current G1G1 participants feeling like they helped to fund and purchase a system that is basically really a serious work in progress and test bed for the new system. A

Re: [sugar] Missing 0.81.1 tarballs

2008-05-22 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Same error. Maybe it still needs to propagate? - Bert - On 22.05.2008, at 20:00, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > Host not found? Not in DNS? That's weird. > > It might have to do with the fact that lists.sugarlabs.org is > actually a CNAME, and we do not have MX records. This is > incorrect accordi

Re: [sugar] Test cases

2008-05-22 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 6:32 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > To land 0.81.1, which is largely about the redesign, we will need > someone to write down test cases for each feature in the redesign. > Eben we thought you could perhaps help out with it, so that can keep

Re: [sugar] Missing 0.81.1 tarballs

2008-05-22 Thread Bernie Innocenti
Host not found? Not in DNS? That's weird. It might have to do with the fact that lists.sugarlabs.org is actually a CNAME, and we do not have MX records. This is incorrect according to RFCs, but I had never seen an MTA complaining. Here, I updated the zone. Bert, please try again. Marco Pesen

Re: [sugar] release infrastructure

2008-05-22 Thread Wade Brainerd
You're right, don't know how I missed it, thanks. On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 12:45 AM, Morgan Collett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 1:30 AM, Wade Brainerd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hi, I'm wondering if you guys could provide a publicly accessible area >> on dev.laptop.org f

Re: [sugar] Log 7

2008-05-22 Thread Wade Brainerd
Cool, thanks guys. On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 1:49 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 10:04 AM, Simon Schampijer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Wade Brainerd wrote: >>> http://www.wadeb.com/log-activity.tar.bz2 >> >> Do you have an account on crank? - then yo

Re: [sugar] Missing 0.81.1 tarballs

2008-05-22 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
Doh! Bernie? Marco On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 6:25 PM, Bert Freudenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 22.05.2008, at 18:14, Bert Freudenberg wrote: > >> I uploaded tarballs for etoys and etoys-activity: >> >> http://dev.laptop.org/pub/sugar/sources/ > > But the mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] bounced:

[sugar] Test cases

2008-05-22 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
Hello, To land 0.81.1, which is largely about the redesign, we will need someone to write down test cases for each feature in the redesign. Eben we thought you could perhaps help out with it, so that can keep focusing on the code. What do you think? Here is a quick proposal on how to handle test

Re: [sugar] Missing 0.81.1 tarballs

2008-05-22 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 22.05.2008, at 18:14, Bert Freudenberg wrote: > I uploaded tarballs for etoys and etoys-activity: > > http://dev.laptop.org/pub/sugar/sources/ But the mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] bounced: - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (reason: 550 5.1.

Re: [sugar] OLPC's bizarre behaviors

2008-05-22 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On 5/21/08, Kim Quirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have been trying to understand it, explain it, live with it , > and improve it for a year now. What I think is going on is a unique > and somewhat chaotic (perfect storm?) intersection of non-profit, open > source, research lab cultures with

[sugar] [PATCH] Fill the activity list progressively after startup.

2008-05-22 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, this patch improves the user experience when the user switches for the first time to the activity list. It's still slow but will be fast enough when the activity palettes are created lazily. Thanks, Tomeu From eaa059e2c85283469fc38b37c28aaeb9489babe3 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Tomeu Viz

Re: [sugar] Missing 0.81.1 tarballs

2008-05-22 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 22.05.2008, at 13:37, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: > See: > > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Release#Module_release > > Please release your modules as soon as possible. We are missing: > > read-activity > write-activity > tamtam-activity > pippy-activity > etoys-activity I uploaded tarballs for

Re: [sugar] gadget 'test' branch

2008-05-22 Thread Dafydd Harries
Ar 20/05/2008 am 10:47, ysgrifennodd Guillaume Desmottes: > Le mardi 20 mai 2008 à 01:47 +0100, Dafydd Harries a écrit : > > Could you review my 'test' branch of Gadget? I put it in my ~ on > > dev.laptop.org; hopefully it will show up in gitweb soon. > > > +if properties: > Shouldn't it

[sugar] Pippy-21 released

2008-05-22 Thread Chris Ball
http://dev.laptop.org/~cjb/pippy/Pippy-21.tar.bz2 Changes from v20: New examples from Dafydd Harries, "tree" and "snow". - Chris. -- Chris Ball <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar

Re: [sugar] Missing 0.81.1 tarballs

2008-05-22 Thread J.M. Maurer
On Thu, 2008-05-22 at 13:37 +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: > See: > > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Release#Module_release > > Please release your modules as soon as possible. We are missing: > > write-activity Working on it. I hope to have it ready before this weekend. Marc _

Re: [sugar] [PATCH] Implement installation dates in the activity list

2008-05-22 Thread Simon Schampijer
Not introduced by your patch but worth fixing: journal/misc.py: E0602: 92:get_date: Undefined variable '_' Nitpicks: 79chars: date = hippo.CanvasText(text=util.timestamp_to_elapsed_string(timestamp)\ a pity we have to re-import gettext as in util.py - but don't know how to do otherwise. def

Re: [sugar] OLPC's bizarre behaviors

2008-05-22 Thread Frederick Grose
Thank you Martin for your insightful perspective. The teams' excellent work has produced such high expectations that they can easily run away and lead to temporary disappointments. Remember the alternatives, be encouraged, and keep up your best efforts. We applaud you all. On Thu, May 22, 2008

Re: [sugar] Missing 0.81.1 tarballs

2008-05-22 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, Read was announced here: http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/sugar/2008-May/005939.html Regards, Tomeu On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > See: > > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Release#Module_release > > Please release your modules as soon as pos

[sugar] Missing 0.81.1 tarballs

2008-05-22 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
See: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Release#Module_release Please release your modules as soon as possible. We are missing: read-activity write-activity tamtam-activity pippy-activity etoys-activity Marco ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org ht

Re: [sugar] Journal 89 released

2008-05-22 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
I announced it here: http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/sugar/2008-May/005934.html These are source releases. For OLPC images it's business as usual (I know Michael is planning some changes, but I don't think we are ready yet). Marco On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 10:11 PM, Bert Freudenberg <[EMAIL PRO

Re: [sugar] Journal 89 released

2008-05-22 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 10:11 PM, Bert Freudenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 21.05.2008, at 20:23, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> a new version of the journal has been released: >> >> http://dev.laptop.org/pub/sugar/sources/journal-activity/journal-activity-89.tar.bz2 > > Looks like I mis

Re: [sugar] release infrastructure

2008-05-22 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 1:30 AM, Wade Brainerd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, I'm wondering if you guys could provide a publicly accessible area > on dev.laptop.org for releasing tar.bz2 and .xo files. It's pretty > cumbersome to upload files to the Wiki, and I'd rather not use private > hosting

Re: [sugar] Log 7

2008-05-22 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 10:04 AM, Simon Schampijer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wade Brainerd wrote: >> http://www.wadeb.com/log-activity.tar.bz2 > > Do you have an account on crank? - then you should be able to upload to here: > http://dev.laptop.org/pub/sugar/sources/ I uploaded it for you: htt

Re: [sugar] Log 7

2008-05-22 Thread Simon Schampijer
Wade Brainerd wrote: > http://www.wadeb.com/log-activity.tar.bz2 Do you have an account on crank? - then you should be able to upload to here: http://dev.laptop.org/pub/sugar/sources/ which translates to: dev.laptop.org:/var/www/sugar/sources/ > This release fixes #6005, #6356, #6597, #6014, ad

Re: [sugar] New joyride build 1970

2008-05-22 Thread Morgan Collett
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 1:24 AM, Mikus Grinbergs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Joyride 1970 has the OLD 'Frame', instead of the 'Circle of > Activities' in the Home view. > > Please fix. An older sugar was built in koji for a bugfix release. By default this gets included in joyride, and requires

Re: [sugar] release infrastructure

2008-05-22 Thread Morgan Collett
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 1:30 AM, Wade Brainerd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, I'm wondering if you guys could provide a publicly accessible area > on dev.laptop.org for releasing tar.bz2 and .xo files. It's pretty > cumbersome to upload files to the Wiki, and I'd rather not use private > hosting

Re: [sugar] New joyride build 1971

2008-05-22 Thread Simon Schampijer
Mikus Grinbergs wrote: > Now have the 'Circle of Activities'. But Journal does not start > automatically. [Did not have Journal on Joyride 1970, either.] > > What are the steps to start Journal manually ? > > > Thanks, mikus The journal is placed in /usr/share/activities and expected in /u