Re: [sugar] Second pass in the 0.84 goals

2008-09-20 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On another note. For each item we have now Actions and Ideas. An action requires to be clearly defined and owned. Marco ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar

Re: [sugar] Second pass in the 0.84 goals

2008-09-20 Thread Walter Bender
Next generation journal has to be a very high priority for the next release. It certainly impacts * Greater Reliability * Greater Performace * Collaboration And it is, IMHO, the biggest deficiency in the current UI. -walter -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org

Re: [sugar] Second pass in the 0.84 goals

2008-09-20 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 3:22 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: == Other features == * Next generation journal * Shell improvements * Make activities rock! Small features left. We need to figure out a place for them in high level goals. Or punt if they are actually not very

Re: [sugar] Second pass in the 0.84 goals

2008-09-20 Thread Walter Bender
Sorry to add noise to the conversation. I was thinking 9.1, not 8.4. I don't think we have the manpower to do a significant refresh of the Journal for 8.4. But would I love to see the open-most-recent-from-journal option on on the Home View!!! -walter On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 9:54 AM, Marco

Re: [sugar] Ideas for Journal: How epiphany browser manages bookmarks just with tags

2008-09-20 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 1:41 AM, Albert Cahalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The case of b/a being distinct from a/b is necessary. You may call it a necessary evil, but in any case is is necessary. Surprisingly, it's not: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Experiments_with_unordered_paths I still think

Re: [sugar] Second pass in the 0.84 goals

2008-09-20 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 3:58 PM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry to add noise to the conversation. I was thinking 9.1, not 8.4. I don't think we have the manpower to do a significant refresh of the Journal for 8.4. But would I love to see the open-most-recent-from-journal option

Re: [sugar] Second pass in the 0.84 goals

2008-09-20 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 4:00 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 3:53 PM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Next generation journal has to be a very high priority for the next release. It certainly impacts Are you referring to the datastore or to new

Re: [sugar] Second pass in the 0.84 goals

2008-09-20 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 4:16 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 9:22 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did a second pass on the release goals based on Gregorio feedback in the wiki: The new pages are here:

Re: [sugar] Second pass in the 0.84 goals

2008-09-20 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
The current plan is to land a rewrite of the datastore early in the release cycle, using the same API and the same user interface. That will mostly help reliability and performance but it's also a prerequisite for the new design and likely for any journal UI improvement. It might or might not

Re: [sugar] Second pass in the 0.84 goals

2008-09-20 Thread Eben Eliason
Mikus - You should check out the very recent thread entitled Ideas for Journal: How Epiphany..., because we're discussing just the type of things you bring up here. On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 9:54 AM, Mikus Grinbergs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The current plan is to land a rewrite of the datastore

Re: [sugar] [Grassroots-l] G1G1 Pre-installed Activities Request for Help Testing

2008-09-20 Thread Sameer Verma
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 5:33 PM, Seth Woodworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What are your criteria? Are you ranking things by supportability and size? If so Ruler is a no-brainer. It's 20kb and is unlikely to break easily. On the other hand SimCity is hard to make drastic changes and still be

Re: [sugar] [Grassroots-l] G1G1 Pre-installed Activities Request for Help Testing

2008-09-20 Thread Walter Bender
In fact, there is a great deal of data from the field in the form of the activity packs that Peru, Uruguay, et al. developed. These collections have been vetted and tested extensively and have a built-in community of support. They are learning-centric collections, but presumably, those G1G1

Re: [sugar] [Grassroots-l] G1G1 Pre-installed Activities Request for Help Testing

2008-09-20 Thread Walter Bender
^is^are^ :) On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In fact, there is a great deal of data from the field in the form of the activity packs that Peru, Uruguay, et al. developed. These collections have been vetted and tested extensively and have a built-in

Re: [sugar] [Grassroots-l] G1G1 Pre-installed Activities Request for Help Testing

2008-09-20 Thread Sameer Verma
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 11:46 AM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In fact, there is a great deal of data from the field in the form of the activity packs that Peru, Uruguay, et al. developed. These collections have been vetted and tested extensively and have a built-in community of

Re: [sugar] Ideas for Journal: How epiphany browser manages bookmarks just with tags

2008-09-20 Thread Chris Ball
Hi, http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Experiments_with_unordered_paths [..] I hope to implement experiments (as described in the wiki page cited above) to start getting real life experience with these tradeoffs. Awesome. We should try to get the GNOME people interested in

Re: [sugar] G1G1 Pre-installed Activities Request for Help Testing

2008-09-20 Thread Ixo X oxI
How about adding these into Joyride Activities one at a time ? A sort of encouragement for testers to test them out. before 8.2 release :) -iXo On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 15:27, Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, Thanks a lot for the input on which activities to ship! Here is

[sugar] which fedora for sugar?

2008-09-20 Thread Erik Blankinship
I recently reformatted my drive. What is the suggested fedora system for sugar development? ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar

Re: [sugar] which fedora for sugar?

2008-09-20 Thread Luke Faraone
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 19:10, Erik Blankinship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recently reformatted my drive. What is the suggested fedora system for sugar development? Fedora 9, that's what we're running on the XO (AFAICT) -LF ___ Sugar mailing list

Re: [sugar] G1G1 Pre-installed Activities

2008-09-20 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
In fact, there is a great deal of data from the field in the form of the activity packs that Peru, Uruguay, et al. developed. I'm not convinced that they are well-tested. They included News Reader, which hasn't worked for the last several releases. News Reader is a strange bird. In

[sugar] Which to translate: Gulcose82 or Gulcose

2008-09-20 Thread Korakurider
Hello. I am still confused where we maintain translations for Gulcose activities, Gulcose82 branch or Gulcose trunk. It seems confusing to activity developers also; most activities are maintained and released on branch, but I see some on trunk. Some development work have started for 9.2 (Sugar

[sugar] importance of Terminal

2008-09-20 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
Had a case of subdirectories mysteriously disappearing from /home/olpc/Activities, including Terminal.activity. Then found that some Sugar scripts would not run from the text console (ctl-alt-F2). [It also told me you don't appear to have a connection.] Ended up manually unzipping Terminal.xo

Re: [sugar] importance of Terminal

2008-09-20 Thread Stephen Thorne
On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 12:25 PM, Mikus Grinbergs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Had a case of subdirectories mysteriously disappearing from /home/olpc/Activities, including Terminal.activity. Then found that some Sugar scripts would not run from the text console (ctl-alt-F2). [It also told me you

Re: [sugar] which fedora for sugar?

2008-09-20 Thread Bobby Powers
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 8:42 PM, Luke Faraone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 19:10, Erik Blankinship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recently reformatted my drive. What is the suggested fedora system for sugar development? Fedora 9, that's what we're running on the XO