On 8 Oct 2008, at 03:51, Walter Bender wrote:
The bottom line is that, at least as far as the XO is concerned (and
other machines with limited memory and no swap) the list of activities
to tab through, with or without the Journal, is going to be a short
list, so is it really such a pressing
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 4:02 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
i _really_ think we need to make the XO base _and_ sugar be a
place that developers are comfortable living in. our needs
aren't quite the same as a school kid's, but i think there's a
much bigger overlap than we often think. with the
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 1:40 AM, Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey, this looks pretty cool, actually. One powerful addition which I
think is necessary in order to adopt this is the addition of a Keep
button in that toolbar, by which one *could* download the pdf for
offline reading
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 9:04 PM, Sayamindu Dasgupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
I would like to propose the inclusion of the Image Viewer Activity
into Fructose:
Just gave it a try and looks awesome. Should we make it the default
activity for images?
I filed #8350 regarding adding the journal object picker to Read, for
the case when it is launched from Home View without a document.
There was a recent discussion on the library list about this, since
the show_launcher setting isn't relevant any more - Read appears in
Home View if you star it.
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 9:04 PM, Sayamindu Dasgupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
I would like to propose the inclusion of the Image Viewer Activity
into Fructose:
Just gave it a try and looks awesome. Should we make it
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 11:49 PM, Samuel Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The laptops feature the latest release of the Sugar window manager, ...
I think we should be able to find a better term than window manager,
Matchbox is the window manager used in 8.2 and it hasn't been modified
by OLPC.
Bert Freudenberg wrote:
Am 08.10.2008 um 10:33 schrieb Morgan Collett:
I filed #8350 regarding adding the journal object picker to Read, for
the case when it is launched from Home View without a document.
There was a recent discussion on the library list about this, since
the show_launcher
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 11:10, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Am 08.10.2008 um 10:33 schrieb Morgan Collett:
I filed #8350 regarding adding the journal object picker to Read, for
the case when it is launched from Home View without a document.
There was a recent discussion on the
Am 08.10.2008 um 11:51 schrieb Morgan Collett:
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 11:10, Bert Freudenberg
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Am 08.10.2008 um 10:33 schrieb Morgan Collett:
I filed #8350 regarding adding the journal object picker to Read,
for
the case when it is launched from Home View
If we could limit the preset filter to a list of mime types, I think
we would benefit from the simplicity. Can we do that? In which cases
is this not enough?
Filtering on mime types would be great.
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On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 1:30 PM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Am 08.10.2008 um 12:03 schrieb Tomeu Vizoso:
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Am 08.10.2008 um 10:33 schrieb Morgan Collett:
I filed #8350 regarding adding the journal
Maybe you could rephrase you call for a show of hands: raise your left
hand if you regularly use Sugar on an XO; raise your right hand if you
use regularly Sugar on other hardware. Clap your hands if you use
Sugar more than a standard WM.
Now listen to the sound of one hand clapping (the right
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 1:58 PM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I prefer the Sugar learning platform
+1
Marco
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On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 5:10 AM, Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey, this looks pretty cool, actually. One powerful addition which I
think is necessary in order to adopt this is the addition of a Keep
button in that toolbar, by which one *could* download the pdf for
offline reading
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 23:49, Samuel Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The laptops feature the latest release of the Sugar window manager, running
on a Linux-based Fedora Core operating system. For answers to frequently
asked questions, and for other XO giving programs, see the OLPC wiki.
Just
Am 08.10.2008 um 13:49 schrieb Tomeu Vizoso:
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 1:30 PM, Bert Freudenberg
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Am 08.10.2008 um 12:03 schrieb Tomeu Vizoso:
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Am 08.10.2008 um 10:33 schrieb Morgan Collett:
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 2:33 PM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Am 08.10.2008 um 14:23 schrieb Tomeu Vizoso:
If we can keep things simple for now, I'd rather do it.
Well, if that does not mean doing nothing, I'm all for it. Why not
just push your old patch then? It looks good.
It
Am 08.10.2008 um 11:16 schrieb Simon Schampijer:
Bert Freudenberg wrote:
Am 08.10.2008 um 10:33 schrieb Morgan Collett:
I filed #8350 regarding adding the journal object picker to Read,
for
the case when it is launched from Home View without a document.
There was a recent discussion on
Am 08.10.2008 um 12:03 schrieb Tomeu Vizoso:
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Am 08.10.2008 um 10:33 schrieb Morgan Collett:
I filed #8350 regarding adding the journal object picker to Read,
for
the case when it is launched from Home View
I prefer the Sugar learning platform
-walter
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 4:35 AM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 11:49 PM, Samuel Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The laptops feature the latest release of the Sugar window manager, ...
I think we should be able to find
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Am 08.10.2008 um 10:33 schrieb Morgan Collett:
I filed #8350 regarding adding the journal object picker to Read, for
the case when it is launched from Home View without a document.
There was a recent discussion on
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 2:15 PM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Am 08.10.2008 um 13:49 schrieb Tomeu Vizoso:
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 1:30 PM, Bert Freudenberg
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Am 08.10.2008 um 12:03 schrieb Tomeu Vizoso:
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Bert Freudenberg
Am 08.10.2008 um 10:33 schrieb Morgan Collett:
I filed #8350 regarding adding the journal object picker to Read, for
the case when it is launched from Home View without a document.
There was a recent discussion on the library list about this, since
the show_launcher setting isn't relevant
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
To get developers eating dog food with the XO you would need the
following:
1.) The Develop activity completed so it is usable for writing code
...
2.) An IMAP client Activity and corresponding IMAP server on a school
...
actually, i don't think
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 8:55 AM, Sayamindu Dasgupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 5:10 AM, Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey, this looks pretty cool, actually. One powerful addition which I
think is necessary in order to adopt this is the addition of a Keep
button in
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 4:46 PM, Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 4:24 AM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 1:40 AM, Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey, this looks pretty cool, actually. One powerful addition which I
think is
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 4:34 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 9:04 PM, Sayamindu Dasgupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
I would like to propose the inclusion of the Image Viewer
Christopher Sawtell, in responded to my post in this thread,
suggested that versioning would support Undo.
Now _that's_ a worthwhile goal to think about -- giving kids a
simple-to-use datastore undo/redo capability.
mikus
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On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 4:24 AM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 1:40 AM, Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey, this looks pretty cool, actually. One powerful addition which I
think is necessary in order to adopt this is the addition of a Keep
button in that
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 10:53 AM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 4:46 PM, Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 4:24 AM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 1:40 AM, Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey, this
Not yet... if someone wants to make a pdf from that page, this would
rock. Something to discuss on Friday. As for window manager v.
learning platform... an updated [[Glossary]] isn't a bad idea.
SJ
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 6:26 PM, Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
is there
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 3:26 AM, Gary C Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 8 Oct 2008, at 03:51, Walter Bender wrote:
The bottom line is that, at least as far as the XO is concerned (and
other machines with limited memory and no swap) the list of activities
to tab through, with or without the
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 7:58 AM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I prefer the Sugar learning platform
+1 from me as well. (I'm torn on platform vs. environment; the
latter actually sounds a little friendlier, to me.)
- Eben
-walter
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 4:35 AM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 5:52 PM, Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 7:58 AM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I prefer the Sugar learning platform
+1 from me as well. (I'm torn on platform vs. environment; the
latter actually sounds a little friendlier, to me.)
This is also a Sugar Labs branding issue. Sugar Learning Platform does a
better job of conveying we are not a stand alone solution. We are a common
point of collaboration on which educators and developers build solutions for
their own unique classrooms and situations.
thanks
david
On Wed, Oct
I prefer platform since I think the platform is a key element in the
overall environment.
-walter
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 12:11 PM, David Farning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is also a Sugar Labs branding issue. Sugar Learning Platform does a
better job of conveying we are not a stand alone
I prefer the Sugar learning platform
And my laundress prefers fabric revitalization consultant.
Sugar isn't about learning. Sugar is a user interface. It draws
icons and decorations on the screen, starts and stops programs, and
lets you turn control knobs. The things Sugar competes with
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 1:05 PM, John Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I prefer the Sugar learning platform
And my laundress prefers fabric revitalization consultant.
Sugar isn't about learning. Sugar is a user interface. It draws
I find your first statement wholly contestable. Moreover,
On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 06:14:16PM +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote:
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 6:33 PM, Erik Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In my mind the fundamental problem is that users aren't required to
fully qualify names for their work. Doing so seems to lie outside of
one of the
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 8:08 PM, Nia Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Marco,
That was a really nice welcome. I work with Elana and the learning team here
at OLPC and one thing we are trying to do is increase communications between
our group and the technical side of the house. It seems the
John Gilmore wrote:
I prefer the Sugar learning platform
And my laundress prefers fabric revitalization consultant.
Sugar isn't about learning. Sugar is a user interface. It draws
icons and decorations on the screen, starts and stops programs, and
lets you turn control knobs.
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 8:21 PM, Nia Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks, MArco. I still think talking to Erik like that isn't very nice
either:)
Nia,
this kind of flames are customary in a technical mailing list and I
don't really think Erik should take personal offence about them. If
you
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 8:30 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 8:21 PM, Nia Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks, MArco. I still think talking to Erik like that isn't very nice
either:)
Nia,
this kind of flames are customary in a technical mailing
On Wed, Oct 08, 2008 at 08:30:27PM +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote:
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 8:21 PM, Nia Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks, MArco. I still think talking to Erik like that isn't very nice
either:)
Nia,
this kind of flames are customary in a technical mailing list
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 2:11 PM, Erik Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 06:14:16PM +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote:
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 6:33 PM, Erik Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In my mind the fundamental problem is that users aren't required to
fully
I encourage those interested in Journal issues to attend my talk @ 1cc
next Wednesday, or to view the video of that talk when it's posted.
Most of the journal issues have straight-forward solutions.
Yesterday, I heard from the IT manager for the city of Key Largo,
Florida; his 60-year old
===Topics===
Roadmap
* update and discuss the existing concrete items (i.e. icon cache)
See you there,
Simon
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snip
Obviously the system is full of files, and you're correct that a
named chunk of data is basically what were talking about. The
intent of the no files sentiment is that kids needn't (necessarily)
think about named chunks of data. Instead, a child might make [this
thing], and then choose
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 4:32 PM, Yamandu Ploskonka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
Obviously the system is full of files, and you're correct that a
named chunk of data is basically what were talking about. The
intent of the no files sentiment is that kids needn't (necessarily)
think about named
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Yamandu Ploskonka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
I hope that this naming
problem (lack of naming, lack of tagging, laborious naming process,
poor default names, buggy name updates, etc.) can be nearly if not
completely cleared up in the next major release.
-
Hello
I am using jh-build having sugar 0.83.x. I am running it on fedora 7. I have
my code in pygtk. When i run it using terminal of jh-build, it works
perfectly. But when i try to port my activity to sugar using setup.py and
MANIFEST files etc., and then try starting my activity by clicking on
On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 2:09 PM, Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bryan Berry wholly captured my attention tonight when he said (in
summary):
Sugar offers an excellent mode for discovery but no excellent way to
manipulate narratives. Both discovery and narrative are essential for
Here are a few more details:
We tried a Fedora 9 LiveCD also and it never fully booted.
The TinyLinux we used was Puppy Linux. It was remarkably faster then Fedora
and Ubuntu.
My notes and a link to Walter's notes are here:
http://schoolkey.net/blog/2008/10/04/sugar-pups
Thanks,
Caroline
On
Sebastian has already built a slimmer version of the Fedora/Sugar Live
spin, and is working on getting it integrated into a Windows-based
installer. Sugar is intended to be a first-class citizen starting with F10.
--g
Is there a LiveCD version I can try?
Thanks
--
Caroline Meeks
Thanks,
I'm specifically looking for light-weight install that has a chance of
working on older machines and 256MB Ram.
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 4:24 PM, Sebastian Dziallas [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
Caroline Meeks wrote:
Sebastian has already built a slimmer version of the Fedora/Sugar
Hi,
I wanted to check in on how its going. I am going to the Fenway High School
today to talk to the Future Engineers club. They are going to be helping
to test USB based operating systems for students. My plan for today is to
talk to them and see what their interstest are. I have met with
Hi Marco,
That was a really nice welcome. I work with Elana and the learning team
here at OLPC and one thing we are trying to do is increase communications
between our group and the technical side of the house. It seems the best
way to communicate this information from the field is to use
Thanks, MArco. I still think talking to Erik like that isn't very nice
either:)
Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED]
10/08/08 02:17 PM
To
Nia Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc
[EMAIL PROTECTED], elana langer [EMAIL PROTECTED], Erik
Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED], Julia Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED],
oh well, maybe it was just where we newbies entered the conversations - if
that's the way you all work then fine. My main concern is that the info
from the field gets to the right people.
Best,
Nia
Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED]
10/08/08 02:33 PM
To
Nia Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc
You bring up a good point. It would be good if the developers used
XO and Sugar. We would see more progress in software efficiency
amongst other things. I use Sugar most of the time as a G1G1 user
when I am home and testing the latest bits. I do have Ubuntu on an
SD card but rarely
On Oct 7, 2008, at 9:25 PM, Martin Dengler wrote:
On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 07:45:13PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You bring up a good point. It would be good if the developers used
XO and Sugar.
[...]
To get developers eating dog food with the XO you would need the
following:
[...]
Caroline Meeks wrote:
Sebastian has already built a slimmer version of the Fedora/Sugar
Live spin, and is working on getting it integrated into a
Windows-based installer. Sugar is intended to be a first-class
citizen starting with F10.
--g
Is there a LiveCD
On Wed, 2008-10-08 at 18:06 -0400, Yamandu Ploskonka wrote:
snip
I hope that this naming
problem (lack of naming, lack of tagging, laborious naming process,
poor default names, buggy name updates, etc.) can be nearly if not
completely cleared up in the next major release.
- Eben
Mikus Grinbergs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Tagging isn't as much of an issue as being able to save files
to a USB key easily.
I'm trying to think of why a kid would want to save files to a USB
key. Normally, except for off-loading objects to a school
repository (a process about which I
2008/10/8 Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 11:49 PM, Samuel Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The laptops feature the latest release of the Sugar window manager, ...
I think we should be able to find a better term than window manager,
Matchbox is the window manager used in
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 9:04 PM, Christopher Sawtell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am new around here did not realise that the list server doesn't
munge the addresses, my apologies.
Anyway, I responded to Mikus thus:-
I agree the 'effort' is theoretically trivial, what versioning
provides is a
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