Re: [sugar] 0.84/9.1 planning.

2008-10-11 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 9:33 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 3:23 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just to clarify: like our mini-conferences in the past, the plan is to have at least three days full of talks and hacking, so that we all

[sugar] scrolling the journal list view (was Re: alt-tabbing to the Journal)

2008-10-11 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 5:27 PM, Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 3:26 AM, Gary C Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Realtime scrolling so you can just grab, drag, and look as it goes past. Indeed. I have never been satisfied with the row-by-row scrolling, but we

Re: [sugar] end of internship

2008-10-11 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 12:12 AM, Federico Mena Quintero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2008-10-07 at 18:26 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: - Developed a tool for monitoring memory allocation inside the python interpreter. Code:

Re: [sugar] pre-alpha release of Deducto

2008-10-11 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 9:15 AM, Naveen Aggarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all A new game by the name of DEDUCTO has been developed for OLPC - XO. The link for downloading the game is : http://code.google.com/p/deducto/downloads/list Kindly report the bugs(if faced any) and your

Re: [sugar] re Journal Requirements and preparing kids (was something else)

2008-10-11 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 4:00 PM, Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Tomeu, Thanks for asking. The product manager role is only meaningful if developers and users feel they benefit from it :-) A note on my perspective. So far I have been able to focus exclusively on XO + Sugar Software. I

Re: [sugar] Viewing PDFs from Browse

2008-10-11 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 5:01 PM, Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 10:53 AM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 4:46 PM, Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 4:24 AM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Oct

Re: [sugar] re Journal Requirements and preparing kids (was something else)

2008-10-11 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 4:00 PM, Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: b - We should allow access to the file system directly. This is the point most adamantly express by John Gilmore (btw there was a round of applause by some engineers in the office on reading that one morning :-). That is, the

[sugar] sugar spin and liveusb-creator

2008-10-11 Thread Sebastian Dziallas
Hi all, you may have already noticed, but we've got a Sugar spin based on Fedora up here: http://sdz.fedorapeople.org/olpc/sugar-spin.iso The image itself is already a few days old, and there will be a new one soonish -- but I wanted to wait with a new release until we can get the

Re: [sugar] scrolling the journal list view (was Re: alt-tabbing to the Journal)

2008-10-11 Thread Walter Bender
On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 6:34 AM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 5:27 PM, Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 3:26 AM, Gary C Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Realtime scrolling so you can just grab, drag, and look as it goes past.

Re: [sugar] scrolling the journal list view (was Re: alt-tabbing to the Journal)

2008-10-11 Thread Eben Eliason
On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 9:38 AM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 6:34 AM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 5:27 PM, Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 3:26 AM, Gary C Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -

Re: [sugar] Viewing PDFs from Browse

2008-10-11 Thread Eben Eliason
The user couldn't annotate a file they don't have. Obviously we have to download the bits to a temporary location to view them, but in the normal paradigm of the web, nothing is permanently kept unless you explicitly download it. Perhaps an attempt to navigate away from the page could ask if you

[sugar] Sugar with a touch screen

2008-10-11 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
Jut came across this blog: http://rkvsraman.blogspot.com/2008/10/gotcha-for-hp-touchsmart-pc.html Cheers, Sayamindu -- Sayamindu Dasgupta [http://sayamindu.randomink.org/ramblings] ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org

Re: [sugar] Viewing PDFs from Browse

2008-10-11 Thread Walter Bender
Does it even make sense to make annotation tools for PDF as a general concept? Why try to distort a proprietary, read-only data format into something it isn't. Wouldn't we be better served by converting from PDF to an open RW format when we save the files? -walter On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 10:11

Re: [sugar] Narrative

2008-10-11 Thread Bryan Berry
On Tue, 2008-10-07 at 17:02 +0200, Bastien wrote: Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: BULLETIN BOARD (activity) I agree such a bulletin board would be very useful - not only to build lesson plans, but also for storing what has been done. When discussing with people from « La main à

Re: [sugar] Narrative

2008-10-11 Thread Bryan Berry
sorry for the late replies On Mon, 2008-10-06 at 13:26 -0400, Eben Eliason wrote: Actually, while I may be arguing a point that you might not have been explicitly making, I think there are a few key ways in which we *can* embed a better narrative into Sugar, and I think they will be very

Re: [sugar] Narrative

2008-10-11 Thread Bryan Berry
sorry for the late replies On Mon, 2008-10-06 at 13:26 -0400, Eben Eliason wrote: Actually, while I may be arguing a point that you might not have been explicitly making, I think there are a few key ways in which we *can* embed a better narrative into Sugar, and I think they will be very

[sugar] [RELEASE] Moon 8

2008-10-11 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi all, Just released Moon-8, available from: sources (thanks to Simon for uploading): http://dev.laptop.org/pub/sugar/sources/moon-activity/Moon-8.tar.bz2 bundled: http://wiki.laptop.org/images/5/59/Moon-8.xo NEWS * Updated empty NEWS file with actual news * Added pt_BR.po

[sugar] New jhbuild dependency: gconf bindings

2008-10-11 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
Hello, we now require the gconf bindings. I added sysdep for Fedora but I need someone to do debian and ubuntu. Thanks, Marco ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar

Re: [sugar] New jhbuild dependency: gconf bindings

2008-10-11 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 8:22 PM, Luke Faraone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ubuntu has switched over to Debian packaging, I'll forward this to the debian maintainer. Luke, this about sugar-jhbuild and apply only to git source code for now. It will only be relevant to packagers when they start

Re: [sugar] Measure Activity inclusion in Fructose

2008-10-11 Thread Arjun Sarwal
Reposting as you had suggested Marco. Many thanks! Arjun On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Arjun Sarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Short description of the features. -Displays waveform of sound in real time -Allows one to connect low cost sensors -allows kids to connect with physical

Re: [sugar] [IAEP] Narrative.

2008-10-11 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
Do we have any proposals of changes to Sugar so it better supports learning in light of the reflections on narrative? It seems to me that implementation of a Sugar batch language would address 'providing a sequence (or graph) of events'. I see two principal functions that need to be

[sugar] new module proposal: Turtle Art

2008-10-11 Thread Walter Bender
Short description of the features. * Turtle Art is an activity with a Logo-inspired graphical turtle that draws colorful art based on snap-together visual programming elements. Screenshots or screencasts. * See http://en.flossmanuals.net/turtleart Are you willing to follow the Schedule? * Yes

Re: [sugar] scrolling the journal list view (was Re: alt-tabbing to the Journal)

2008-10-11 Thread Gary C Martin
On 11 Oct 2008, at 11:34, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 5:27 PM, Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 3:26 AM, Gary C Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Realtime scrolling so you can just grab, drag, and look as it goes past. Indeed. I have

Re: [sugar] scrolling the journal list view (was Re: alt-tabbing to the Journal)

2008-10-11 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 10:20 PM, Gary C Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Second, and my preference, we could introduce temporal section headers. After scrolling far enough back in time, there might be sections for each month, and further back, for each year, etc., with each section being

Re: [sugar] [IAEP] Narrative.

2008-10-11 Thread Gary C Martin
On 11 Oct 2008, at 16:34, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: What I wish for is that Content bundles were not second-class citizens. The entire Home View is devoted to presenting Activities for launching (or deletion). But Collections currently are presented only within the left-hand panel in Browse.

Re: [sugar] scrolling the journal list view (was Re: alt-tabbing to the Journal)

2008-10-11 Thread Martin Dengler
On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 09:20:56PM +0100, Gary C Martin wrote: On 11 Oct 2008, at 11:34, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 5:27 PM, Eben Eliason wrote: The main problem here is potential length of the scrolling page. [...] we could introduce temporal section headers. After

[sugar] Bootstrap liveusb from CD (Re: Sugar USB testing)

2008-10-11 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 4:30 PM, Caroline Meeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you have any pointer about this? I can look at it and see what it would take to make it work with Fedora liveusb. ftp://ftp.slax.org/SLAX-6.x/slax-boot-usb-from-cd-6.0.7.iso and our discussion on it:

Re: [sugar] Sugar USB testing

2008-10-11 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 4:30 PM, Caroline Meeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to hear everyone thoughts about this but personally I wouldn't mind at all to have them open tickets about the problems they find with the software. Less specific feedback like impressions or feature requests

Re: [sugar] U3 flash drives

2008-10-11 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 9:13 PM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Anyone know much about U3 flash drives? Would this be the simplest (for the end user) way of booting a LiveUSB image of Sugar? (I worry about asking people to change their BIOS to enable USB boot as being too off-putting.)

Re: [sugar] U3 flash drives

2008-10-11 Thread Walter Bender
Much more common that bootable USB. Another possibility would be to keep the Journal on USB and everything else on the CD. -walter On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 6:05 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 9:13 PM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone

Re: [sugar] U3 flash drives

2008-10-11 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 12:09 AM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Much more common that bootable USB. Another possibility would be to keep the Journal on USB and everything else on the CD. Yeah, but since CD is *much* slower then USB, I'm not sure it's worth it. I'll prepare a

Re: [sugar] Viewing PDFs from Browse

2008-10-11 Thread Christopher Sawtell
2008/10/12 Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Does it even make sense to make annotation tools for PDF as a general concept? Why try to distort a proprietary, read-only data format into something it isn't. Whilst the Acroread and Acrobat programs are indeed closed proprietary products, the

Re: [sugar] Viewing PDFs from Browse

2008-10-11 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 7:41 PM, Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The user couldn't annotate a file they don't have. Obviously we have to download the bits to a temporary location to view them, but in the normal paradigm of the web, nothing is permanently kept unless you explicitly

Re: [sugar] Viewing PDFs from Browse

2008-10-11 Thread Gary C Martin
On 12 Oct 2008, at 00:26, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote: I was thinking along similar terms, and here's the screenshot of the latest version: http://dev.laptop.org/~sayamindu/pdf_embed/Screenshot.png To get this in your own XO (I used this on a clean install of 767), download the install the

Re: [sugar] [IAEP] Narrative.

2008-10-11 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 8:34 AM, Mikus Grinbergs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What if Activity and Content bundles were one and the same. You could have bundles that just hold an Activity to install, or just have Content for the library, or more interestingly have it hold both an Activity and

Re: [sugar] [IAEP] Narrative.

2008-10-11 Thread Wade Brainerd
On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 8:34 AM, Mikus Grinbergs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Activities are verbs. Collections are nouns. Sugar should make the getting_to/using of nouns as easy as that of verbs. Activities are really nouns too, a lot of them are just named with verbs that describe what they

Re: [sugar] [IAEP] Narrative.

2008-10-11 Thread Gary C Martin
On 12 Oct 2008, at 01:48, Wade Brainerd wrote: On the bad side, you can't run two Wikipedias because they will try to bind webservers to the same port. Also, if the user removes Browse, Wikipedia will no longer run. These issues could best be solved by a sugar-webcontent-activity

Re: [sugar] [IAEP] Narrative.

2008-10-11 Thread Wade Brainerd
On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 6:43 PM, Gary C Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12 Oct 2008, at 01:48, Wade Brainerd wrote: On the bad side, you can't run two Wikipedias because they will try to bind webservers to the same port. Also, if the user removes Browse, Wikipedia will no longer run.

Re: [sugar] scrolling the journal list view (was Re: alt-tabbing to the Journal)

2008-10-11 Thread Gary C Martin
On 11 Oct 2008, at 22:49, Martin Dengler wrote: On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 09:20:56PM +0100, Gary C Martin wrote: On 11 Oct 2008, at 11:34, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 5:27 PM, Eben Eliason wrote: The main problem here is potential length of the scrolling page. [...] we could