Re: [sugar] [support-gang] Postponement of XOCamp Event to January

2008-10-30 Thread Morgan Collett
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 07:52, Deepak Saxena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 29 2008, at 21:52, Ed McNierney was caught saying: Folks - The OLPC XOCamp event being planned for November 17 ­ 21 is being postponed until January, 2009. The Fedora FUDCON conference is in Boston on January 9 -

Re: [sugar] 9.1 Proposal: Files

2008-10-30 Thread Morgan Collett
2008/10/30 Luke Faraone [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 20:50, Bill Bogstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the fact that they will quickly disappear off the screen, and may be auto-deleted by the system greatly limits their value. Only if they don't get used. In which case, those

Re: [sugar] Postponement of XOCamp Event to January

2008-10-30 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 2:52 AM, Ed McNierney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The OLPC XOCamp event being planned for November 17 – 21 is being postponed until January, 2009. The Fedora FUDCON conference is in Boston on January 9 Oops. I kind of saw that coming when fudcon was postponed. I'll sort my

Re: [sugar] [support-gang] Postponement of XOCamp Event to January

2008-10-30 Thread Joel Stanley
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 16:22, Deepak Saxena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The OLPC XOCamp event being planned for November 17 ­ 21 is being postponed until January, 2009. The Fedora FUDCON conference is in Boston on January 9 - 11 I think the week after would best. If we go with the week

Re: [sugar] 9.1 proposal: Language learning on the XO.

2008-10-30 Thread David Farning
nbsp;FWIW.nbsp; I have had a number of high school teacher and university instructors ask about using the xo as a language learning appliance.nbsp; The two reoccurring themes have been:XO as a portable language lab.Ability to develop a language learning activity which could tailor itself to the

[sugar] Benefits of creating activities

2008-10-30 Thread David Farning
Walter posed a question on how to communicate the benefits of developing activities for Sugar in his last Sugar digest. One approach is to look at the philanthropic aspects of OLPC and SL for potential developers. The primary goal of any non-profit is to accomplish the organization's mission as

Re: [sugar] Postponement of XOCamp Event to January

2008-10-30 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 9:52 PM, Ed McNierney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The OLPC XOCamp event being planned for November 17 – 21 is being postponed until January, 2009. The Fedora FUDCON conference is in Boston on January 9 As should be clear, I'm not happy at all with how this is being

Re: [sugar] Postponement of XOCamp Event to January

2008-10-30 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 6:06 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 9:52 PM, Ed McNierney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The OLPC XOCamp event being planned for November 17 – 21 is being postponed until January, 2009. The Fedora FUDCON conference is in Boston on

[sugar] [RELEASE] sugar-base 0.83.1

2008-10-30 Thread Simon Schampijer
sources: http://dev.laptop.org/pub/sugar/sources/sugar-base/sugar-base-0.83.1.tar.bz2 News: * Add dispatcher implementation from django * Mark modules as STABLE Best, Simon ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org

[sugar] [RELEASE] sugar-toolkit 0.83.1

2008-10-30 Thread Simon Schampijer
== Source == http://dev.laptop.org/pub/sugar/sources/sugar-toolkit/sugar-toolkit-0.83.1.tar.bz2 == Fixed tickets == * #8420 Failure to handle 404 in ChunkedGlibHTTPRequestHandler * #7649 Activities needs to access sugar-toolbox's members directly * #8617 Clipboard scroll buttons icons point

[sugar] Data Storage and User-facing System Requirements [was Re: 9.1 Proposal: Files]

2008-10-30 Thread Erik Garrison
Thank you to the repliers to my original proposal. I missed a crucial point--- which is that I must clearly draw the lines of connection between user-facing requirements and the solutions provided by my proposal. I am rewriting it with this pattern in mind. If you wish to reply on the mailing

Re: [sugar] [Localization] 9.1 proposal: Language learning on the XO.

2008-10-30 Thread Yamandu Ploskonka
Please be _very_ careful on any thought about teaching English with the XO. Enemies of the project everywhere are just waiting for a chance, any chance, to call us yokels of the imperialist empire, and they would have a field day if the XO delivered EFL. Of course we know that many locally

[sugar] [RELEASE] sugar 0.83.1

2008-10-30 Thread Simon Schampijer
== Source == http://dev.laptop.org/pub/sugar/sources/sugar/sugar-0.83.1.tar.bz2 == Fixed tickets == * #5867 Battery fully charged shows up in error (battery is removed) * #8623 Jabber server description is ambiguous * #8900 Should re-request closed random views * #7545 Should request random

Re: [sugar] Postponement of XOCamp Event to January

2008-10-30 Thread David Farning
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 12:44 PM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 6:06 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 9:52 PM, Ed McNierney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The OLPC XOCamp event being planned for November 17 – 21 is being

Re: [sugar] Data Storage and User-facing System Requirements [was Re: 9.1 Proposal: Files]

2008-10-30 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Erik Garrison wrote: It seems from my reading of mailing lists, IRC logs, and listening to conversations with people that we are trying to resolve all of these issues by implementing more code to get around difficulties imposed by our current data

[sugar] [RELEASE] sugar-datastore 0.83

2008-10-30 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi all, this release features a rewritten codebase that should bring improvements in reliability, performance and maintainability. Details at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/DevelopmentTeam/DatastoreRewrite == Source ==

Re: [sugar] Data Storage and User-facing System Requirements [was Re: 9.1 Proposal: Files]

2008-10-30 Thread david
On Thu, 30 Oct 2008, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Erik Garrison wrote: It seems from my reading of mailing lists, IRC logs, and listening to conversations with people that we are trying to resolve all of these issues by implementing more code to

Re: [sugar] October 29 - Tarballs due for 0.83.1

2008-10-30 Thread David Farning
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 9:20 AM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 2:52 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tomeu Vizoso wrote: I have stopped work on the DS and Journal because OLPC is apparently

[sugar] [RELEASE] etoys-3.0.2160

2008-10-30 Thread Bert Freudenberg
this version copes with the datastore using byte arrays for strings, thus allowing to resume again http://dev.laptop.org/pub/sugar/sources/etoys/etoys-3.0.2160.tar.gz http://dev.laptop.org/pub/sugar/sources/etoys-activity/etoys-activity-96.tar.gz - Bert -

Re: [sugar] [Localization] 9.1 proposal: Language learning on the XO.

2008-10-30 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Yamandu Ploskonka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please be _very_ careful on any thought about teaching English with the XO. It is a requirement in many countries. We don't have a choice. Enemies of the project everywhere are just waiting for a chance, any chance,

Re: [sugar] [Localization] 9.1 proposal: Language learning on the XO.

2008-10-30 Thread Yamandu Ploskonka
Ed, u r 100% on as usual. I believe we should work for tools that can help all languages, and then people can load their own preferred choices, avoiding an image issue of OLPC taking a stand that could be misconstrued by those who love to misconstrue. Those people don't care about reason,

Re: [sugar] USB Based Community Access - What could work technically?

2008-10-30 Thread David Farning
*Clinic next door to a School* - A health clinic located right next door Sasha's school has a close partnership with the school. Many students are scene there so they decided to add a donated computer to their waiting room just for kids to use Sugar. This computer still has its hard-drive, but its

Re: [sugar] USB Based Community Access - What could work technically?

2008-10-30 Thread Walter Bender
What is the current recommendation for a LiveUSB image? -walter On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 6:42 PM, David Farning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Clinic next door to a School - A health clinic located right next door Sasha's school has a close partnership with the school. Many students are scene there

Re: [sugar] USB Based Community Access - What could work technically?

2008-10-30 Thread Caroline Meeks
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 6:42 PM, David Farning [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: *Clinic next door to a School* - A health clinic located right next door Sasha's school has a close partnership with the school. Many students are scene there so they decided to add a donated computer to their waiting room

Re: [sugar] USB Based Community Access - What could work technically?

2008-10-30 Thread David Farning
My thought is that it provides a low cost initial entry point for introducing Sugar. I am under the impression that personal student notebooks will be the long term solution. In the mean time we should do whatever is necessary to make Sugar available given the existing technological and

Re: [sugar] USB Based Community Access - What could work technically?

2008-10-30 Thread David Farning
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 6:03 PM, Caroline Meeks [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 6:42 PM, David Farning [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: *Clinic next door to a School* - A health clinic located right next door Sasha's school has a close partnership with the school. Many students are

[sugar] pie menus

2008-10-30 Thread Erik Garrison
Pie menus seem to be an innovative, unique, and potentially highly user-friendly way of presenting a user of a graphical interface with complex sets of options. There was some work on them, ostensibly by a community developer, but I only just heard about them today from Seth Woodward and was

Re: [sugar] USB Based Community Access - What could work technically?

2008-10-30 Thread Luke Faraone
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 20:05, David Farning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 6:03 PM, Caroline Meeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 6:42 PM, David Farning [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: *Clinic next door to a School* - A health clinic located right next door

Re: [sugar] USB Based Community Access - What could work technically?

2008-10-30 Thread Caroline Meeks
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 8:44 PM, Luke Faraone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 20:05, David Farning [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 6:03 PM, Caroline Meeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 6:42 PM, David Farning [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

Re: [sugar] Status of Joyride

2008-10-30 Thread Chris Ball
Hi, is there a plan to start up joyride again so we can (somewhat more easily) test this stuff out? Or is that waiting till after XOcamp2? Did I maybe miss the email thread about this? Joyride's back now. joyride-2520 contains the queued-up userspace changes, and joyride-2521 is

[sugar] Sugar on Ubuntu LiveUSB is ready

2008-10-30 Thread David Farning
It looks like our friends at Ubuntu have been hard at work building a Subuntu live usb. Simon Peter, also know as probono, has posted information on downloading and building the usb at http://dev.laptop.org/~probono/sbuntu/ Thanks to the Ubuntu SugarTeam for packaging Sugar on Ubuntu and to

Re: [sugar] Data Storage and User-facing System Requirements

2008-10-30 Thread Tony Anderson
Benjamin Schwartz wrote: Erik: If you want applications to behave as they do on other systems, then why not just use an other system? I am not being facetious, and I hope I don't seem disrespectful. If you are not interested in Sugar's goal of rearchitecting the computer experience to