Re: [sugar] Sugar USB testing

2008-10-14 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 4:30 PM, Caroline Meeks [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 10:14 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 4:46 AM, Caroline Meeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :) I made a new one, but then left it in my computer at home!

Re: [sugar] Sugar USB testing

2008-10-14 Thread Bernie Innocenti
Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 4:30 PM, Caroline Meeks I posted my notes from the visit to Fenway today: http://schoolkey.net/blog/2008/10/08/first-meeting-with-future-engineers-at-fenway-high-school Very exciting, thanks for

Re: [sugar] Sugar USB testing

2008-10-14 Thread Caroline Meeks
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 10:14 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 4:46 AM, Caroline Meeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :) I made a new one, but then left it in my computer at home! I did bring my XO and everyone liked it of course. I posted my notes

Re: [sugar] Sugar USB testing

2008-10-14 Thread Caroline Meeks
On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 1:57 PM, Bernie Innocenti [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 4:30 PM, Caroline Meeks I posted my notes from the visit to Fenway today:

Re: [sugar] Sugar USB testing

2008-10-11 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 4:30 PM, Caroline Meeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to hear everyone thoughts about this but personally I wouldn't mind at all to have them open tickets about the problems they find with the software. Less specific feedback like impressions or feature requests

Re: [sugar] Sugar USB testing

2008-10-10 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 4:46 AM, Caroline Meeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :) I made a new one, but then left it in my computer at home! I did bring my XO and everyone liked it of course. I posted my notes from the visit to Fenway today:

Re: [sugar] Sugar USB testing

2008-10-10 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 4:30 PM, Caroline Meeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just downloaded. Will burn a CD shortly and test on the machines I have here before I leave for the weekend. I'll be back Tuesday. What is the process of going from a CD to a USB? Right now I think the only way is to run

Re: [sugar] Sugar USB testing

2008-10-10 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 5:48 PM, Caroline Meeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Feedback on http://www.sugarlabs.org/~marco/sugar-livecd-1marco.iso Wow! It runs on my 128 MB RAM Pentium II! I don't have a duplicate of the Shaw 256MB computers but clearly this is a great sign. One odd thing to

Re: [sugar] Sugar USB testing

2008-10-08 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 4:02 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i _really_ think we need to make the XO base _and_ sugar be a place that developers are comfortable living in. our needs aren't quite the same as a school kid's, but i think there's a much bigger overlap than we often think. with the

Re: [sugar] Sugar USB testing

2008-10-08 Thread Walter Bender
Maybe you could rephrase you call for a show of hands: raise your left hand if you regularly use Sugar on an XO; raise your right hand if you use regularly Sugar on other hardware. Clap your hands if you use Sugar more than a standard WM. Now listen to the sound of one hand clapping (the right

Re: [sugar] Sugar USB testing

2008-10-08 Thread pgf
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... To get developers eating dog food with the XO you would need the following: 1.) The Develop activity completed so it is usable for writing code ... 2.) An IMAP client Activity and corresponding IMAP server on a school ... actually, i don't think

Re: [sugar] Sugar USB testing

2008-10-08 Thread Caroline Meeks
Here are a few more details: We tried a Fedora 9 LiveCD also and it never fully booted. The TinyLinux we used was Puppy Linux. It was remarkably faster then Fedora and Ubuntu. My notes and a link to Walter's notes are here: http://schoolkey.net/blog/2008/10/04/sugar-pups Thanks, Caroline On

Re: [sugar] Sugar USB testing

2008-10-08 Thread Caroline Meeks
Sebastian has already built a slimmer version of the Fedora/Sugar Live spin, and is working on getting it integrated into a Windows-based installer. Sugar is intended to be a first-class citizen starting with F10. --g Is there a LiveCD version I can try? Thanks -- Caroline Meeks

Re: [sugar] Sugar USB testing

2008-10-08 Thread Caroline Meeks
Thanks, I'm specifically looking for light-weight install that has a chance of working on older machines and 256MB Ram. On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 4:24 PM, Sebastian Dziallas [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Caroline Meeks wrote: Sebastian has already built a slimmer version of the Fedora/Sugar

Re: [sugar] Sugar USB testing

2008-10-08 Thread Caroline Meeks
Hi, I wanted to check in on how its going. I am going to the Fenway High School today to talk to the Future Engineers club. They are going to be helping to test USB based operating systems for students. My plan for today is to talk to them and see what their interstest are. I have met with

Re: [sugar] Sugar USB testing

2008-10-08 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You bring up a good point. It would be good if the developers used XO and Sugar. We would see more progress in software efficiency amongst other things. I use Sugar most of the time as a G1G1 user when I am home and testing the latest bits. I do have Ubuntu on an SD card but rarely

Re: [sugar] Sugar USB testing

2008-10-08 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Oct 7, 2008, at 9:25 PM, Martin Dengler wrote: On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 07:45:13PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You bring up a good point. It would be good if the developers used XO and Sugar. [...] To get developers eating dog food with the XO you would need the following: [...]

Re: [sugar] Sugar USB testing

2008-10-08 Thread Sebastian Dziallas
Caroline Meeks wrote: Sebastian has already built a slimmer version of the Fedora/Sugar Live spin, and is working on getting it integrated into a Windows-based installer. Sugar is intended to be a first-class citizen starting with F10. --g Is there a LiveCD

Re: [sugar] Sugar USB testing

2008-10-07 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 6:37 PM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CCing the Sugar list. It seems that one of the problems we will be encountering with generic spins is footprint. Even a standard Ubuntu without Sugar was seeming too fat to load from a LiveCD on a Pentium 4 with 256K of

Re: [sugar] Sugar USB testing

2008-10-07 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 12:41 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 6:37 PM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CCing the Sugar list. It seems that one of the problems we will be encountering with generic spins is footprint. Even a standard Ubuntu without

Re: [sugar] Sugar USB testing

2008-10-07 Thread pgf
marco pesenti gritti wrote: On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 6:37 PM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CCing the Sugar list. and adding devel. It seems that one of the problems we will be encountering with generic spins is footprint. Even a standard Ubuntu without Sugar was seeming

Re: [sugar] Sugar USB testing

2008-10-07 Thread Martin Dengler
On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 10:02:57PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: marco pesenti gritti wrote: On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 6:37 PM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CCing the Sugar list. and adding devel. It seems that one of the problems we will be encountering with generic

Re: [sugar] Sugar USB testing

2008-10-07 Thread Martin Dengler
On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 07:45:13PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You bring up a good point. It would be good if the developers used XO and Sugar. [...] To get developers eating dog food with the XO you would need the following: [...] 2.) An IMAP client Activity and corresponding IMAP

Re: [sugar] Sugar USB testing

2008-10-06 Thread Greg Dekoenigsberg
On Mon, 6 Oct 2008, Morgan Collett wrote: On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 18:37, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CCing the Sugar list. It seems that one of the problems we will be encountering with generic spins is footprint. Even a standard Ubuntu without Sugar was seeming too fat to load

Re: [sugar] Sugar USB testing

2008-10-05 Thread Walter Bender
CCing the Sugar list. It seems that one of the problems we will be encountering with generic spins is footprint. Even a standard Ubuntu without Sugar was seeming too fat to load from a LiveCD on a Pentium 4 with 256K of DRAM. Although we didn't try it, I expect Fedora would present similar

Re: [sugar] Sugar USB testing

2008-10-05 Thread Walter Bender
On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 12:37 PM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CCing the Sugar list. It seems that one of the problems we will be encountering with generic spins is footprint. Even a standard Ubuntu without Sugar was seeming too fat to load from a LiveCD on a Pentium 4 with 256K of