Re: [sugar] Preparing for the feature freeze

2008-06-05 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 4:24 PM, Eben Eliason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> We know from experience that users do not know how to interpret the >> certificate warning, and simply learn to click on the button that allows >> them to continue. Presenting them with an incomprehensible warning, and >> t

Re: [sugar] Preparing for the feature freeze

2008-06-05 Thread Eben Eliason
On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 10:14 AM, Benjamin M. Schwartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Eben Eliason wrote: > | On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 12:36 AM, Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > |> On Tue, Jun 03, 2008 at 11:03:44AM +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritt

Re: [sugar] Preparing for the feature freeze

2008-06-05 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
Here is a good explanation of how this is handled in Firefox 3.0 (different from both Eben and Benjamin proposal): http://www.dria.org/wordpress/archives/2008/05/06/635/ Marco On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 4:14 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > H

Re: [sugar] Preparing for the feature freeze

2008-06-05 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Eben Eliason wrote: | On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 12:36 AM, Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: |> On Tue, Jun 03, 2008 at 11:03:44AM +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: |>> * Browser bookmarks and autocompletion. - priority 3 |> I'd really like to see

Re: [sugar] Preparing for the feature freeze

2008-06-05 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
We probably found a way to just hook up the firefox dialogs, there are some missing bits but it will probably be easier than writing our own certificate manager. You can try it out manually btw by opening this url in a *separate* browser instance: chrome://pippki/content/exceptionDialog.xul Marc

Re: [sugar] Preparing for the feature freeze

2008-06-05 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
There is a good chance that this is not be possible without patching xulrunner, which would make me **really** nervous. What you are describing is the old firefox UI, and I *think* they took out the hooks to do that in xulrunner 1.9. Michael, is the target for this feature only G1G1? I think Peru

Re: [sugar] Preparing for the feature freeze

2008-06-04 Thread Eben Eliason
On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 12:36 AM, Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Jun 03, 2008 at 11:03:44AM +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: >> * Browser bookmarks and autocompletion. - priority 3 > > I'd really like to see some progress on #542/#5534 (deal with > non-standard SSL certificate

Re: [sugar] Preparing for the feature freeze

2008-06-04 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Jun 03, 2008 at 11:03:44AM +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: > * Browser bookmarks and autocompletion. - priority 3 I'd really like to see some progress on #542/#5534 (deal with non-standard SSL certificate authorities). This is going to become a bigger and bigger stumbling block the long

Re: [sugar] Preparing for the feature freeze

2008-06-04 Thread Erik Garrison
On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 10:28:25AM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 7:19 PM, Erik Garrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 03, 2008 at 01:53:37PM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > >> On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 1:50 PM, Walter Bender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > Alas, two m

Re: [sugar] Preparing for the feature freeze

2008-06-04 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 12:29 AM, Walter Bender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> So I was probably wrong to bring up the Record bug in this thread. >> However, the Browse bugs seem to be related to unsupported features in >> the

Re: [sugar] Preparing for the feature freeze

2008-06-04 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 12:29 AM, Walter Bender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So I was probably wrong to bring up the Record bug in this thread. > However, the Browse bugs seem to be related to unsupported features in > the browser--e.g., the need for some daughter windows to appear. > Feature or bug

Re: [sugar] Preparing for the feature freeze

2008-06-04 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 7:19 PM, Erik Garrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Jun 03, 2008 at 01:53:37PM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: >> On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 1:50 PM, Walter Bender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > Alas, two more open bugs that should be considered by someone: >> > >> > (1) Reco

Re: [sugar] Preparing for the feature freeze

2008-06-04 Thread Guillaume Desmottes
Le mardi 03 juin 2008 à 14:33 -0400, Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos a écrit : > Guillaume Desmottes wrote: > > Search queries will return a {Buddy,Activity}View object. This object > > will have a Get{Buddies,Activities} method to retrieve the result of the > > search, a "Changed" (or Added/Removed) s

Re: [sugar] Preparing for the feature freeze

2008-06-03 Thread Walter Bender
So I was probably wrong to bring up the Record bug in this thread. However, the Browse bugs seem to be related to unsupported features in the browser--e.g., the need for some daughter windows to appear. Feature or bug--not obvious. -walter On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 1:29 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti <[EM

Re: [sugar] Preparing for the feature freeze

2008-06-03 Thread Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos
Guillaume Desmottes wrote: > Search queries will return a {Buddy,Activity}View object. This object > will have a Get{Buddies,Activities} method to retrieve the result of the > search, a "Changed" (or Added/Removed) signal to track changes and a > Closed method when user is not interested anymore by

Re: [sugar] Preparing for the feature freeze

2008-06-03 Thread Jameson "Chema" Quinn
It is proving hard for me to get consensus on the new bundle format, but I hope that I can do so soon enough to get some forward-compatibility patches in. Right now, I think that that would be: allow tar as well as zip bundles (though zip bundles would remain the norm for now) allow multiple instal

Re: [sugar] Preparing for the feature freeze

2008-06-03 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 7:20 PM, Erik Garrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Jun 03, 2008 at 11:03:44AM +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: >> The feature (and strings) freeze is approaching very quickly. We have >> 17 days left. Can we make a quick list of things that we need to get >> in by

Re: [sugar] Preparing for the feature freeze

2008-06-03 Thread Erik Garrison
On Tue, Jun 03, 2008 at 11:03:44AM +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: > The feature (and strings) freeze is approaching very quickly. We have > 17 days left. Can we make a quick list of things that we need to get > in by the 20 June? > This is a feature freeze, not a bugfix/patch freeze, correct?

Re: [sugar] Preparing for the feature freeze

2008-06-03 Thread Erik Garrison
On Tue, Jun 03, 2008 at 01:53:37PM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 1:50 PM, Walter Bender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Alas, two more open bugs that should be considered by someone: > > > > (1) Record has been broken in Joyride for quite some time: ever since > > the introduct

Re: [sugar] Preparing for the feature freeze

2008-06-03 Thread Eben Eliason
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 10:47 AM, Eben Eliason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On a more interesting note, it would be really fantastic to store some > additional metadata in addition to the URL for future use. (See > wiki.laptop.org/go/Browse). For instance, it would be nice to, map Sorry. More s

Re: [sugar] Preparing for the feature freeze

2008-06-03 Thread Eben Eliason
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 5:20 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> The feature (and strings) freeze is approaching very quickly. We have >> 17 days left. Can we make a quick list of things that we need to g

Re: [sugar] Preparing for the feature freeze

2008-06-03 Thread Eben Eliason
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 6:29 AM, Guillaume Desmottes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Le mardi 03 juin 2008 à 12:11 +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti a écrit : >> On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 11:59 AM, Morgan Collett >> What happens if we land only the backend without the search features? >> Do we only see a random

Re: [sugar] Preparing for the feature freeze

2008-06-03 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 4:14 PM, Eben Eliason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 5:26 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 11:20 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> * Improve the object chooser: >>> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/D

Re: [sugar] Preparing for the feature freeze

2008-06-03 Thread Eben Eliason
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 5:26 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 11:20 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> * Improve the object chooser: >> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Designs/Object_Chooser > > Priority 3. I think this is much higher on the list.

Re: [sugar] Preparing for the feature freeze

2008-06-03 Thread Guillaume Desmottes
Le mardi 03 juin 2008 à 12:34 +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti a écrit : > > For now I'm focusing on PS API. If someone wants to work on the GUI side > > when they are done that would be great. > > What kind of API are you planning for the PS? Trying to understand how > much work it will be to hook it

Re: [sugar] Preparing for the feature freeze

2008-06-03 Thread Walter Bender
It is definitely tied to something that is different between the Joyride and the update.1 streams. It still works in 703... -walter On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 7:53 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 1:50 PM, Walter Bender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Alas, two more

Re: [sugar] Preparing for the feature freeze

2008-06-03 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 1:50 PM, Walter Bender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Alas, two more open bugs that should be considered by someone: > > (1) Record has been broken in Joyride for quite some time: ever since > the introduction of compositing? (#6850) Joyride has no composite enabled, so this s

Re: [sugar] Preparing for the feature freeze

2008-06-03 Thread Walter Bender
Alas, two more open bugs that should be considered by someone: (1) Record has been broken in Joyride for quite some time: ever since the introduction of compositing? (#6850) (2) Browse has some issues that are important to Uruguay (#6825, 6826, #7078) -walter _

Re: [sugar] Preparing for the feature freeze

2008-06-03 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 12:29 PM, Guillaume Desmottes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> What happens if we land only the backend without the search features? >> Do we only see a random number of buddies? > > Yes, if sugar request these buddies (shouldn't be more complicated than > a D-Bus method call on

Re: [sugar] Preparing for the feature freeze

2008-06-03 Thread Guillaume Desmottes
Le mardi 03 juin 2008 à 12:11 +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti a écrit : > On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 11:59 AM, Morgan Collett > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Gadget is a server side component for the jabber server that will > > address the scalability issues by showing presence for only a subset > > of th

Re: [sugar] Preparing for the feature freeze

2008-06-03 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 11:59 AM, Morgan Collett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Gadget is a server side component for the jabber server that will > address the scalability issues by showing presence for only a subset > of those on the server. It will therefore allow many more on the > server at once.

Re: [sugar] Preparing for the feature freeze

2008-06-03 Thread Morgan Collett
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The feature (and strings) freeze is approaching very quickly. We have > 17 days left. Can we make a quick list of things that we need to get > in by the 20 June? > > Let me start it. Priorities goes from 0 to 5. > >

Re: [sugar] Preparing for the feature freeze

2008-06-03 Thread Morgan Collett
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 11:54 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 11:45 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: * Presence scalability when using Jabber (gadget). >>> >>> Priority 2. >> >> Sure about this? Usefulness of presence is very limited witho

Re: [sugar] Preparing for the feature freeze

2008-06-03 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 11:45 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Priority 2. I would love to have it but it might be too late, given >> that Sayamindu experimentation run into interesting problems. > > A nice thing about this is that little changes to sugar are expected > to be needed, s

Re: [sugar] Preparing for the feature freeze

2008-06-03 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
Hello, On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 2:56 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 11:20 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Three more items I can think of: > > My take on the priorities. > >> * Switch from Matchbox to Metacity and > > Priority 2. I would l

Re: [sugar] Preparing for the feature freeze

2008-06-03 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 11:26 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 11:20 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Three more items I can think of: > > My take on the priorities. > >> * Switch from Matchbox to Metacity and > > Priority 2. I would love to

Re: [sugar] Preparing for the feature freeze

2008-06-03 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 11:20 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Three more items I can think of: My take on the priorities. > * Switch from Matchbox to Metacity and Priority 2. I would love to have it but it might be too late, given that Sayamindu experimentation run into interesting

Re: [sugar] Preparing for the feature freeze

2008-06-03 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The feature (and strings) freeze is approaching very quickly. We have > 17 days left. Can we make a quick list of things that we need to get > in by the 20 June? > > Let me start it. Priorities goes from 0 to 5. > >